[hackerspaces] [Noisebridge-discuss] Please reach out

Sat Nov 26 10:11:10 CET 2011

One other "trim" item is our screens. They emit a strong bluish light which
we stare into for hours. It screws up our circadean rhythm like crazy
especially when done late at night. Dim your screen, turn off your screens
a few hours before bedtime, etc. It's hard but I think it's a big "out of
whack" factor for us geeks. I can actually feel myself becoming a zombie
when I stare at my phone in bed.
On Nov 26, 2011 1:40 AM, "Psy Tek" <psytek at alphaonelabs.com> wrote:

> "Some even argue that depression may not be an illness at all, but an
> evolutionary survival mechanism that helps us cope with life’s crises by
> forcing us to reassess our priorities."
>
> Read more:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1382895/Depression-good-you.html
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Arclight <arclight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From my experience, the things that have been suggested are all
>> useful, but fall into two categories.
>>
>> Suggestions like getting on a proper diet, sleeping 8 hours per day,
>> exercising and doing stretching/yoga, stress management, finding
>> things to occupy your mind and feel fulfilled. These are like the
>> "trim adjustments," and I liken them to gently tapping things into
>> alignment with a block of wood.  This is enough for most people, and
>> it's also what someone with a serious problem should ideally be doing
>> as well.
>>
>> However, that isn't always enough. Sometimes, what you really need is
>> a BIG HAMMER.  Sometimes, a person just "can't get there from here"
>> and that's where professional help, medication, cognitive behavior
>> therapy and other tool tools are the only thing that (if they're
>> lucky) can do the job.
>>
>> It's also important to take care of yourself if you're trying to be
>> there for someone going through serious, clinical depression. That
>> situation quite literally feels like all the light is being sucked out
>> of the room when it's bad, all of your suggestions suck and can't ever
>> work and you'll feel like a failure.
>>
>> Remember, this is a serious medical problem, and you can't be expected
>> to fix it. The best you can do is be supportive, be there  and help
>> them take the right steps when they can.
>>
>> Arclight
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Mars brown <itcamefrommars at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > one more btw... sleep and wake cycles and diet are not an end all
>> "cure" or
>> > maintenance..
>> > my housemate is up at 5:30am everyday and asleep by 9 pm - and eats a
>> very
>> > well planned diet - and she suffers still terribly from anxiety and
>> > depression.
>> > just a note - but alot of our "kind" (if you will) burn that midnight
>> oil
>> > hacking away and such and could really benefit mood wise from some
>> simple
>> > biological know how.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Mars brown <itcamefrommars at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Im glad to see the mention of sleep and sunlight.
>> >> Remember that we are critters that have evolved for whatever reason to
>> be
>> >> awake during light hours and sleep during night.
>> >> Our melatonin/serotonin cycle depends directly on our light sensors for
>> >> the triggering mechanisms of when to start production of what.
>> >> Our light sensors being our retinas and our skin (for uv light) btw.
>> >>
>> >> How many people here understand/know the absurdly important importance
>> of
>> >> the serotonin/melatonin cycle stability?
>> >> We were naturally timed by the sunrise and sunset before the
>> edison/tesla
>> >> wars.  (light bulb)
>> >>
>> >> Seriously... if you are having some serotonin issues... force yourself
>> to
>> >> sit outside with as much skin exposed and no sunglasses early and
>> often.
>> >> Go back to bed if you want but you won't reREM unless your cycle is
>> really
>> >> messed up.
>> >>
>> >> If you are vegan/veggie... eat soy so that you can get in some
>> tryptophan
>> >> in case you are missing it in your diet.
>> >> Tryptophans are what serotonins are made from.  Not to mention -
>> serotonin
>> >> is mostly in your belly and volume wise used more in digestion... so
>> it can
>> >> assist alot of GI issues also to eat good trypto rich food.
>> >>
>> >> I'm no expert at all but please read up on serotonin/melotonin
>> cycles...
>> >> it should be required in all high schools.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> That comic/blog is amazing!!  Thanks for posting it.
>> >>>
>> >>> And thanks, Sean for that great story of yours (I didn't know you were
>> >>> such a good writer -- please do that more.)
>> >>>
>> >>> Mitch.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>> From: will.sargent at gmail.com
>> >>> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:39:03 -0800
>> >>> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] [Noisebridge-discuss] Please reach out
>> >>> To: maltman23 at hotmail.com
>> >>> CC: discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org; felix.sargent at gmail.com;
>> >>> noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > SSRI medication can help with that in part (always in combination
>> with
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > above as far as i'm concerned), even though many in the community
>> are
>> >>> > very
>> >>> > eager to bash anti-depressants. It can be a life saver!
>> >>>
>> >>> Everyone is unique, and so everyone will have various results with
>> >>> various methods of dealing with depression.  If you're suffering from
>> >>> depression, and have time to explore, then it's way worth exploring
>> all the
>> >>> methods that may work for you -- see what works, and do more of it.
>> If you
>> >>> are feeling suicidal, or feel that you do not have time to explore on
>> your
>> >>> own, please know that you can seek help, either from friends or
>> people in
>> >>> the geek community (if you can force yourself to do so, people *will*
>> help),
>> >>> or from a professional (most places offer free services, including
>> calling
>> >>> 911 in the US)
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm kind of amazed I didn't post this link sooner:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2011/10/adventures-in-depression.html
>> >>> Will.
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