[hackerspaces] hacker passport, international hacker memberiship, resources sharing

[Matt Joyce]

Though what we're talking about here on the informal layer is basically a
sort of web of trust ... trust relationship model.

If someone designed a device for storing / signing / interfacing gpg keys...
that hackers could use to demonstrate who they know who trust them ...  that
could almost work better than a passport.

It would also have plenty of hackable uses.

-Matt

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:28 PM, nicolle n. <superherogirl at gmail.com> wrote:

> i know for a fact that reciprocal membership has been explored on a small
> scale, but i'm with Matt in thinking that it won't take formally on a large
> scale.  spaces have different goals, different amounts of space, and
> different levels of resources, and may not want to (or be able to) formally
> allow anyone anywhere who is associated with a space anywhere in.
>
> that said, if you are in a city and want to visit a space, i've found that
> to be really easy on an informal basis.  anytime i've been to a city and
> wanted to visit a space, i've just pinged them on twitter or by email,
> introduced myself, and expressed my interest.  almost always, whether i knew
> someone there or not, i've been able to arrange a visit.
>
> i think the informal hacker passport works better than any formal one ever
> will.
>
> nicolle
> On Jun 12, 2011 7:18 PM, "Matt Joyce" <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
> > Membership is handled differently in different spaces. So there probably
> is
> > no way to exchange membership between all of them.
> >
> > You might need to just start with a couple and try to get it to expand.
> But
> > my guess is no matter what some spaces will never sign onto this.
> >
> > =/
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> *From:* aestetix aestetix <aestetix at gmail.com>
> >> *To:* Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor at yahoo.com>
> >> *Cc:* Noisebridge <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> >> *Sent:* Sun, June 12, 2011 10:36:38 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] I'm switching for hiatus status
> >>
> >> >> This actually makes me ask whether we could consolidate a
> "hackerspaces
> >> membership" where someone could pay a set fee and be
> >> >> considered a member of several different hackerspaces. That way if
> you
> >> travel to Seattle, Chicago, NYC, etc, you'd already have a group >> of
> >> friends and be trusted to member-level use of resources.
> >>
> >> >> Has this been considered at all? I know we were playing with the idea
> of
> >> a "passport" a while back.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Aestetix & all,
> >> I've been asking in various hackerspaces about the membership/resources
> and
> >> it looks like that if the hackerspaces which you are visiting and where
> are
> >> you from are connected, the situation is quite easy to sort out in a
> >> positive way, generally paying in one of them and it is fine.
> >>
> >> However I've to say that from my point of view the most easy way would
> be
> >> pay in your home hacker center and temporarily in the other one which
> you
> >> are visiting. Bit more expensive but most simple. Option number two
> would be
> >> to create some group of hacker spaces which would recognise each other
> so
> >> also the status of the members etc. However what about resources/money.
> If
> >> I'm now at 091 labs as a member of Noisebridge, to whom shall I pay, how
> >> much and who is going to keep the resources. The arguments may vary from
> >> point of view that you are using resources in a place so you should
> support
> >> it. Or other point of view is that you were using resources in another
> place
> >> before, these help you to create something which you are
> applying/teaching
> >> in the "new" space so again, who gets the resources the helpers at the
> >> beginning? Maybe Mitch could you comment? Is your project about the
> >> passports about this too, is it going to be revealed soon? :-)))
> >>
> >> It may sounds materialistic but I'm learning more and more that
> strong/good
> >> financial base/habits are very important for creation, running and
> finishing
> >> the projects. I've plenty to learn, but I'm trying.
> >>
> >> Anyway I would love to hear your feedback and I'm posting this also to
> the
> >> hackerspace.org
> >>
> >> Which remind me that I'm around four days behind paying my membership at
> >> 091 labs ....
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Frantisek
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> **
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <
> algoldor at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi to All!
> >>> I want to announce that I'm on hiatus status for now and I've been for
> >>> several
> >>> months, sorry for not announcing publicly before (Kelly was informed,
> with
> >>> delay
> >>> ...) .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The reason for that is my financial situation which is improving but it
> is
> >>> still
> >>> not good enough to support multiple memberships. I'm trying to apply
> the
> >>> system
> >>> of becoming a member and paying member fees at hacker spaces where I'm
> >>> active
> >>> (091 labs right now). As soon as I've sufficient funding, I'd like to
> pay
> >>> at
> >>> least my starving hacker fees at Noisebridge + the fees of the place
> where
> >>> I'm
> >>> temporarily active. This may take me several months, hopefully not more
> >>> than
> >>> year.
> >>>
> >>> So best of luck with funding, once I can afford it, I'll join the "in
> good
> >>> standing" club :-))
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> Frantisek
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