[hackerspaces] hackerspaces meetup? / hope and 27c3

Peter Ing peter.ing.za at gmail.com
Thu May 20 15:17:21 CEST 2010


How about Iceland or Greenland!

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Blackhold <blackholdmailer at gmail.com> wrote:
> maybe the best option to meet european hackerspaces and us
> hackerspaces is to meet in an island in the middle of the atlantic :D
>
> what is there in the middle?
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> Blackhold
> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Barcelona
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> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 17:17, Nick Farr (hackerspaces.org)
> <nick at hackerspaces.org> wrote:
>> I'm going to disagree strongly on this one, especially when it comes
>> to Raymond's effort.  We shouldn't discourage it.
>>
>> We're at the point where a hackerspaces-focused conference is
>> necessary.  /tmp/lab proved this with HSF
>> (http://www.hackerspace.net/)
>>
>> If a crew on this side of the Atlantic presents itself as a starting
>> point, then so be it.  Raymond, did you want to possibly run a US HSF
>> in coordination with /tmp/lab?
>>
>> There's a lot of things to discuss, from formation, growth, survival
>> and more importantly looking at ways to work together--just among
>> North American spaces.
>>
>> Just looking at the ChaosVPN--there's probably enough there for at
>> least a day's worth of working sessions, training and development
>> meetings.
>>
>> The problem with "just picking a bigger conference" is that attention
>> is incredibly diluted.  People are there for a multitude of reasons,
>> and it's hard to get people to focus their attention on a single
>> topic, get everyone to agree on a working session, etc.
>>
>> There are going to be Hackerspace-centric efforts at The Next Hope and
>> DEFCON, 27C3 and likely many other conferences.
>>
>> The problem with the CCC Congress is that it's virtually out of the
>> question for those with family obligations in the Americas.  I feel
>> hackerspaces should be reaching out to those with families, or at the
>> very least avoiding more situations where those folks might be
>> excluded.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick Farr / http://nickfarr.org / 8B13F204
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:56, elmar lecher <mc.fly at ramdrive.org> wrote:
>>> Heyho guys.
>>>
>>> I think we should aim at a bigger conference and meet there. I think either
>>> hope or defcon is a good place in the states and ccc 27c3 is a good place
>>> here in europe.
>>>
>>> Lets just pick one of those days.
>>>
>>> I can understand most organizers want to have it on their cons, but i dont
>>> think its a good idea to pick a too small conderence.
>>>
>>> You would not want to need to show up on cons like the
>>> metarheinmain-chaosdays or the Gulasch-programmier-nacht (which are both
>>> awesome conferences but i doubt you want to fly over the pond for that.)
>>>
>>> I think a lot of new hackerspaces need to know that this is not a american
>>> only thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> mc.fly ...
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