[hackerspaces] was: need a hacker should be: how not to make a fool of ourselves and ride us deeper into the hacker/cracker stigma

[Blackhold]

hi,
is great to show to other people what we do in our hackerspaces, but
sometimes when someone comes to us searching a very bad black hat
hacker it is really strange to us, we are simply a group of young
people that we like to play with computers...

but this people and more specific periodists don't really know that,
and it would be not be the first time that a periodist searches a
hacker to talk about cybercrime and modify our good intentions to
explain what we do.

here in barcelona our hackerspace is really related to squatting, and
some politics says that squatters are ETA terrorists or we offer
support to these groups. But it is not true, giving support to a
friend who has been arrested due terrorism relationships in some way,
that don't mean that all this group of people does support to these
groups.

someone of us think that we have to fight for our rights, but not with
violence, our best weapon is the democracy, and first we have to tell
to our politics that democracy means the political power for the
people.

each time our rights are more limited, if you have in mind, play ball
in the street is not allowed in all places of Barcelona.
. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Blackhold
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On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:48, Steve Clement <steve at localhost.lu> wrote:
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> On 08/27/2010 10:19 AM, Yves Quemener wrote:
>> Now she has probably understood that it was just a joke. So for her now
>> hackers are not only people who break into private networks but are also
>> bullies. Yep, great PR fail.
>>
>
> I think that is just old people who got stuck somewhere between AOL and
> Compuserve.
> And probably really think it is funny to diss some not-so-computer-savy
> people.
>
> We have a lot of fun in our hackerspace and diss people all the time.
> Off course I will diss you if you mix up the nmap and ls commands...
>
> But if someone enters the space who seems genuinly computer illiterate,
> well, I give my best to introduce him to the basics and take it from there.
>
> It is still, and always will be, about respect. Ohh yes and you do need
> to use your brains from time to time.
>
> Off course the person who posted on the list could have been an
> impersonator and is now laughing his or hers ass off.. I do not care, it
> is better to assume the person is honest and honestly help her then do
> the oposite.
>
> Anyway: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=4237
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
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