[hackerspaces] HackerSpace movement, history and development

[Jarkko Moilanen]

After clearing things (my misinterpetation of the kwadronauts reply)  
on IRC, the last comment was not at all polite. Sorry about  
that..really.

/jarkko

Quoting Jarkko Moilanen <Jarkko.Moilanen at uta.fi>:

> Quoting kwadronaut <kwadronaut at autistici.org>:
>
>> Go back to the junkyard where pieces of history can be gathered!
>>
> Great tip.
>
>> Maybe you should have a look at languages too. And local circumstances.
>> Maybe some are not so keen on publishing their infos on the internet, or
>> it has dissapeared, use other names and languages which you nor i speak,
>> which make them harder to find.
>>
> I am aware of my limited abilities. I just try to use what I have.  
> If  that's not enough for you, it's your problem. And I did mention  
> in the  blog post about possible reluctance to become public (in   
> hackerspaces.org or anywhere else) that some groups might have.
>
>> As a mere example: there are 3 hackerspaces in brussels. One doesn't
>> wish to call herself like that, but instead uses something like blux
>> (local lunix group), another one is mainly in French and doesn't feel
>> like listing themselves on hackerspaces.org (at least that was what i
>> understood, my french is rusty), so in the end you get 1 result for
>> belgium on your little exclusive list. Not to mention that the people in
>> Ghent care more about local people and struggles, ...
>
> I'm not to blame for them not to list in hackerspaces.org. What the   
> heck am I supposed to do with that? Again, I use the resources I get  
>  my hands on.
>
>>
>> Thinking that hackerspaces.org contains a representative list or
>> something is pure nonsense
>
> Yet it is at the moment most comprehensive list of hackerspaces. Any  
>  other resources to be included are most welcome.
>
> /jarkko
>>
>> Jarkko Moilanen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> ****** WARNING: Academic and theoretical content ***********
>>>
>>> I was trying to find out any answers/ definitions to the question that
>>> kept on popping in to my mind. The question was: "What is a
>>> hackerspace?" Well..after a while I found some 'definitions' and
>>> 'features' that can/could be assosiated to HS.
>>>
>>> But that's not the point of this post. While doing my humble research
>>> (for my blog post) I noticed two interesting issues. I did some simple
>>> statistical analysis about the history of still active hackerspaces and
>>> found out that before 2001, the amount of founded hackerspaces was 1 or
>>> 2. But in the year 2001 it was 9 new hackerspaces. After that until 2007
>>> it was again just a few new hackerspaces in a year. Question is what was
>>> so different about the year 2001? The second topic of wonder came to my
>>> mind while looking at the map of hackerspaces in Europe. There does not
>>> seem to be many hackerspaces in the Eastern-Europe or Russia. Why? Yes,
>>> I'm a social scientist (Political Science PhD student and hacker) and
>>> that's why I am so interest about these questions. And yes, I'm also a
>>> member of one hackerspace (the5thwave in Tampere, Finland). Perhaps the
>>> reason for my little study is to get some sort of 'deeper' understanding
>>> of what I'm participating in. While browsing the archives I found a
>>> debate about 'theory' related to hackerspaces. I was not sure about
>>> posting this message here. I hope that this post is not offending anyone
>>> or considered too 'theoretical' to be posted here.
>>>
>>> Any ideas or suggestions to the above questions would be appreciated.
>>> The (still not finished) blog post which I'm referring to can be found
>>> here:
>>> http://extreme.ajatukseni.net/2009/11/14/viewpoints-to-the-development-of-hackerspaces/
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jarkko
>>>
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>>> * Jarkko Moilanen                                 *
>>> *                                                 *
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> * Jarkko Moilanen                                 *
> *                                                 *
> * Profound XML-technology & Linux Expert,         *
> * Author / developer of DAIDALOS - Distributed    *
> * Agile Open Source Development Method            *
> *                                                 *
> * Choosing the "right" Operating System:          *
> *  If you need functionality and ease of use: MAC.*
> *  If you want to poke around and develop: Linux. *
> *  If you want problems: Windows.                 *
> ***************************************************
>



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* Jarkko Moilanen                                 *
*                                                 *
* Profound XML-technology & Linux Expert,         *
* Author / developer of DAIDALOS - Distributed    *
* Agile Open Source Development Method            *
*                                                 *
* Choosing the "right" Operating System:          *
*  If you need functionality and ease of use: MAC.*
*  If you want to poke around and develop: Linux. *
*  If you want problems: Windows.                 *
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