[hackerspaces] status of this list

[Eric Moore]

I read it as dismissive and inflamatory.

If you don't have anything nice to say...

What was the purpose of the email? To kill the thread and minimize  
openfly?

That's not terribly nice, or constructive, and stimulates a similarly  
worded negative response, aka a flame

-eric



On May 14, 2009, at 7:41 PM, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:

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> I re-read the mail 3 times, can you please explain to me how this is a
> flame-bait?
> Looks like an honest mail to me.
>
> W.
>
> Matt Joyce wrote:
>> Please stop flame baiting.
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Hellekin O. Wolf (/tmp/lab)
>> <hellekin at hackerspaces.org <mailto:hellekin at hackerspaces.org>> wrote:
>>
>>    On Thu 2009-05-14 at 19:08:48 -0400, Matt Joyce wrote:
>>> Simplicity is great.  I don't disagree.  And if "Be excellent to
>>    each other"
>>> was enough I wouldn't have brought this up as an issue.  I think
>>    we need
>>> something more, and the past few days are the evidence I would
>>    submit of
>>> that.  This is a new list and it's important to set the proper
>>    tone early
>>> on.  We don't need valuable members of the hackerspace community
>>    dropping
>>> off of the list in frustration.
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>    *** From what I've read so far, I see that you and another  
>> person are in
>>    favor of pro-active moderation, while the rest are against any  
>> form of a
>>    priori censorship. Either, as Paul suggested, you take
>>    responsibility for
>>    it, or I guess we should drop the case.
>>
>>    We're way beyond Johannes' stimulation for political  
>> consciousness into
>>    active political action (either way: for or against
>>    censorship/moderation,
>>    i.e. "discussion" vs. "conversation"). I don't think there's more
>>    need to
>>    discuss the matter: you want moderation, you take care of it,  
>> otherwise,
>>    just skip it and we resume to something else.
>>
>>    My €.02. General opinion being along the way of towo and webmin 
>> d et
>>    al. DIY
>>
>>    ==
>>    hk, ready to drop off of the list in frustration ;o)
>>
>>    j/k
>>
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