<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hey Aaronco,<br><br>I appreciate your note, thanks for visiting the space this afternoon, it was nice to meet you. Glad to see someone who spends time at Noisebridge hop over to this side of the bay to check out Sudo Room. <br>
<br></div>While I recognize the good faith suggestions you've made, and do thank you for sharing your thoughts, I have to disagree with one bit. I would not necessarily generally categorize folks as being desirable vs undesirable. I think part of being openly accessible is suspending judgement and allowing folks the opportunity to demonstrate good faith participation with an open, collaborative group that has expressed its shared ideals, protection of safe space, and strong support of mutual respect (<a href="http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association">http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association</a>).<br>
<br></div>That being said, the type of <i>behavior</i> you described such as theft, disruption, harassment or abuse, etc are indeed behaviors that should be prevented first of all and generally unsupported by members and users of sudo room. <br>
<br></div>Very excited to move forward, as you've suggested, to <b>enhance</b> open acess to sudo room. <br><br></div>// Matt<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Aaronco Thirtysix <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aaronco36@gmail.com" target="_blank">aaronco36@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just to address what some of the hackers are/were discussing around<br>
3:15pm at the Hackerspace.<br>
Including Matt S and the Guy Faulkes-appearing dude with the hat.<br>
Indirect reference to the typical Positive-Negative grid referenced in [1].<br>
<br>
IMHO, I think EVERYONE here would agree that as far as physical access<br>
to the space, you WANT to attract Qualified/Productive/$upportive<br>
people to visit and get involved with Sudo Room. At the same time,<br>
everyone probably wants to keep out the clear undesirables,<br>
e.g.,UNinvited visitors to the space who steal valuables, harass/abuse<br>
others, vandalize the space or others' property there, and/or those<br>
who essentially squat at the space (homeless?)<br>
These two actions and categories of visitors are the respective True<br>
Positives and True Negatives that, again, everyone probably agrees<br>
upon.<br>
<br>
Where people are most liable to disagree as far as access to the space<br>
are the False Positives and False Negatives here.<br>
<br>
One the one hand are those who will (admirably I think) enhance<br>
SudoRoom's openly-accommodating access as described at the Wiki's<br>
Welcome page [2]. The potential benefits here are that this attracts<br>
not only those Qualified/Productive/$upportive people to visit and get<br>
involved with Sudo Room, but also will probably attract people who<br>
COULD [eventually] GET Qualified/Productive/$upportive. The potential<br>
drawbacks here are that this inclusiveness may, in fact, also bring<br>
along a few of the False Positive types; namely, those undesirables<br>
mentioned above.<br>
<br>
OTOH, there are probably some of those who will (less-admirably I<br>
think) seek to restrict SudoRoom's openly-accommodating access in<br>
order to discourage as many clearly-undesirable visitors as possible.<br>
The potential benefits here are that this would definitely make the<br>
SudoRoom a much safer place; not only for visitors and members<br>
themselves, but also for their own private as well as collective<br>
POSSESSIONS. The potential drawbacks here are that these restrictions<br>
may, in fact, also lead to many fewer False Negative types; namely,<br>
those desirable visitors mentioned just above who COULD [eventually]<br>
GET Qualified/Productive/$upportive!<br>
<br>
In this balancing act, I, for one, am clearly on the side of those who<br>
would rather ENHANCE open access to the SudoRoom.<br>
So here is to making it as easy as possible to physically and safely<br>
access the space!<br>
<br>
-Aaronco<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://www.mathsisfun.com/data/probability-false-negatives-positives.html" target="_blank">http://www.mathsisfun.com/data/probability-false-negatives-positives.html</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Welcome" target="_blank">http://sudoroom.org/wiki/Welcome</a><br>
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