Hi all,<div><br></div><div>There are some awesome responses to this. I propose that we (me?) use the feed back here to rewire our description on the homepageof the website. I really don't think that as it stands it really captures what we are or are trying to do. At least I think we coudl do better.. Right now it reads: </div>
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"Sudo Room is an open, non-hierarchical, collaborative community of humans, including tech developers, citizen scientists, activists, artists–and all combinations in between and beyond!–who are interested in and working towards social change. Our goal is to create the first inclusive, dedicated hackerspace in downtown Oakland, to share ideas and projects in the following areas:</p>
<ul style="margin:0px 0px 15px 65px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;list-style:none;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 14px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:url(http://sudoroom.org/wp-content/themes/sudoroom-blogum/images/dash.png);line-height:1.5;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat">
the creative use of technology</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 14px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:url(http://sudoroom.org/wp-content/themes/sudoroom-blogum/images/dash.png);line-height:1.5;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat">
citizen science</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 14px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:url(http://sudoroom.org/wp-content/themes/sudoroom-blogum/images/dash.png);line-height:1.5;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat">
digital citizenship and literacy</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 14px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:url(http://sudoroom.org/wp-content/themes/sudoroom-blogum/images/dash.png);line-height:1.5;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat">
environmental sustainability</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 14px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:url(http://sudoroom.org/wp-content/themes/sudoroom-blogum/images/dash.png);line-height:1.5;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat">
community engagement</li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 14px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-image:url(http://sudoroom.org/wp-content/themes/sudoroom-blogum/images/dash.png);line-height:1.5;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat">
self-government.</li></ul><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:1.5;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
Sudo Room is committed to access, empowerment, transparency, and public/social good. Sudoers have a great diversity of interests and we emphasize respect and solidarity among ourselves and with others."</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:1.5;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
Sudo Room is located at 2141 Broadway</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:1.5;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
Thanks,</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:1.5;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
Andrew</p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Leonid Kozhukh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:len@ligertail.com" target="_blank">len@ligertail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">id like to get feedback after the housewarming on your experiences recruiting and talking about sudoroom:<div><span style="line-height:16px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br>
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<span style="line-height:16px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">how did you describe sudoroom?</span></div><div><span style="line-height:16px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">what were the responses you heard?</span></div>

<div><span style="line-height:16px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">what did people respond to/get excited about?</span></div><div><span style="line-height:16px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">what did people not care for?</span></div>

<div><span style="line-height:16px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:16px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">this has been added to a section on our perpetual meeting doc - </span><font color="#000000" face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px"><a href="https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom" target="_blank">https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom</a> - #4: housewarming recap, under the 'membership' bullet...</span></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Marina Kukso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marina.kukso@gmail.com" target="_blank">marina.kukso@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">sudo room is a hackerspace and creative community in downtown oakland. it's a space for sharing tools, skills, and ideas. sudoers are interested in teaching, learning, and collaboration. many of our members are interested in technical and non-technical forms of hacking, community involvement/participation, and .... (i like to say social justice, but maybe you wouldn't say that! :))<br>


<br>another question that it helps to think about when talking to folks is "so, what is hacking?"<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Eddan Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eddan@eddan.com" target="_blank">eddan@eddan.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>


</div><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div>Doing stuff together / to make our community / openly accessible.<br>
<br>Sent from <a href="http://eddan.com" target="_blank">eddan.com</a></div>
<div><div><div><br>On Dec 6, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "Troy" <<a href="mailto:ecoeconomist11@gmail.com" target="_blank">ecoeconomist11@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div><div><div><br>"Make. Do. Act. Create"</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>On Dec 6, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Anca Mosoiu <<a href="mailto:anca@techliminal.com" target="_blank">anca@techliminal.com</a>> wrote:<br>


<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">SudoRoom is an autonomous collective of techies, artists, activists, dreamers and doers who hang out in Downtown Oakland.   We work on projects (everything from electronics to programming, to math, history and crafts) to broaden our minds and enrich the hacker culture in which we participate.</span><br>



</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Jehan Tremback <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jehan.tremback@gmail.com" target="_blank">jehan.tremback@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It's a Hackerspace. We rent a space in downtown Oakland where anybody is welcome to come by and work on cool projects etc. We also have bangin' parties sometimes.<div>



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On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Leonid Kozhukh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:len@ligertail.com" target="_blank">len@ligertail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">




you wouldnt read the compact in a spontaneous exchange with someone, right? also take into account that you may need to describe sudoroom in different ways depending on who youre speaking to...<div><div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Anthony Di Franco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:di.franco@gmail.com" target="_blank">di.franco@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<font face="arial narrow,sans-serif">We've got a lot of what sudoroom is in the compact.</font><div><font face="arial narrow,sans-serif">We've got a fair bit of who we are individually in the intro emails.</font></div>







<div><font face="arial narrow,sans-serif">Perhaps curating these and presenting them well would be useful?</font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Leonid Kozhukh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:len@ligertail.com" target="_blank">len@ligertail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>







</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>you have been asked these questions before. if not, you will be on friday and for the foreseeable future.<div>





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<div><div>to increase sudorooms accessibility, we need to make the message simple and clear.</div><div>
<br></div><div>id like to hear your answers to these questions and start iterating through the process of figuring out the messaging.</div><div><br></div><div>consequently, i hope, with a clear message more of us will engage with, listen to, and convert prospective sudoers!</div>








<div><br></div><div>hit me back with answers</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div>len</div><div><br></div>founder, ligertail<div><a href="http://ligertail.com" target="_blank">http://ligertail.com</a></div>







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