<span style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">hi everyone,</span><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br></div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">couple more things:</div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br></div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">1) this is a proposed budget that only includes the proposal to move into the art studio upstairs - it is not the be all and end all of possible budgets that we can look at on wednesday! i encourage anyone who has alternate proposals, or proposed changes to this budget (like a proposed change to include private spaces), to create additional documents for us to look at based off the two proposed budgets that matt sent around:</div>
<blockquote style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>- month of Nov budget (which will be different from other months due to backpayments, deposits, etc.)</div>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_6qzhQZBX8dHU0bWZaNkxpSkcyeG5WMVRwMVQ4aWc#gid=5" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_6qzhQZBX8dHU0bWZaNkxpSkcyeG5WMVRwMVQ4aWc#gid=5</a><div>
- future monthly budgets (after Nov when we will have normal monthly costs): </div><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_6qzhQZBX8dHU0bWZaNkxpSkcyeG5WMVRwMVQ4aWc#gid=6" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_6qzhQZBX8dHU0bWZaNkxpSkcyeG5WMVRwMVQ4aWc#gid=6</a></blockquote>
<div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">2) regarding the higher dues amount entered, this part can be changed. we were trying to get a good estimate that was closer to matching costs.</div>
<div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">3) re: private space, as our compact is now worded, </div><ul style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);line-height:19.03333282470703px;list-style-type:square;margin:0.3em 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(238,238,238)">
<li style="margin-left:15px;margin-bottom:0.1em"><b>sudo room</b> strives to make assets and resources available to as many non-member participants and beneficiaries as possible.</li><li style="margin-left:15px;margin-bottom:0.1em">
Note: no personal property should be stored in <b>sudo room</b> unless a system for personal storage can be provided by <b>sudo room</b>.</li></ul><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
we actually haven't decided how it would work to have private storage, how much of a potential space we'd want to offer for private storage, how people would request or be given private storage, how much we would charge for private storage, etc. any ideas?</div>
<div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">4) remember, the compact can be changed!</div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
5) finally, on the issue of how private spaces might work if we just got the art studio, i'm having a hard time imagining where, physically, the private space would be (in the closet area of the art studio?).</div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
6) posted breakdown on current amounts owed is shaded in green under costs associated with 2135 broadway here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_6qzhQZBX8dHU0bWZaNkxpSkcyeG5WMVRwMVQ4aWc#gid=5" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_6qzhQZBX8dHU0bWZaNkxpSkcyeG5WMVRwMVQ4aWc#gid=5</a> i know that it's not the most transparent doc, would it be helpful for me to write up a little guide to this part of the budget? i'd be happy to do that.</div>
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finally, i REALLY REALLY encourage folks, if at all possible, to try and make it for as much of this wednesday's meeting as possible. if we get started right at 7, we can make real progress towards deciding where to move in nov.</div>
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- marina</div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<br></div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ps - i'll try to be in the irc today through wednesday for anyone who wants to talk about proposals, making a budget, understanding the current budget, or any other sudo-activities! nick = mk30. url for anyone who needs it: <a href="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=sudoroom" style="background-color:transparent">http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=sudoroom</a></div>
<div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Matthew Senate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Two quick notes:<br><br><div dir="ltr">(a) You're right about the classroom space, it was only a personal sticking point, trying to work it out for Workshop Weekend asap.<br>
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(b) Eddan is planning to continue leasing the spaces downstairs even if we
let them go. Further, he would be open to making them available for
private usage, which may suffice for everyone mentioned in Hol's
proposal. 575 for 3 private spaces, maybe 1 in orange closet, 2 in fishbowl a.k.a. box office? Thus Sudo Room would lower costs by renting less space, but the private spaces would be accounted for, albeit on the 1st floor. Needs to be considered of course by those interesting in private space.<br>
<br>// Matt<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:08 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hol@gaskill.com" target="_blank">hol@gaskill.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div>
<div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Folks,<br>
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Just now going over emails after a weekend up north. It's unfortunate to hear about the issue with another group overriding our classroom reservation. If a system can be worked out with George to prevent this in the future, I think it would still be worth retaining access to the ready to use classroom and the meeting room that has so far been very useful to us. Also, some pulsating RGB LEDs in the fishbowl would probably still be visible to street passers-by :) and maybe we could mention to George that the signage severely limits the appeal of that space for us if it still seems otherwise desirable, see if the reaction is accommodating.<br>
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Concerning the proposed budget, 2 things catch my eye. First, dues are listed at $60 when alot of people said $50 was the max they wanted to pay iirc. Second, was there a decision to eliminate the option for personal workspaces (tables or whatever, paid for at the same $/sf rate, with no special requirements RE noise, etc) in sudoroom? That's a good source of revenue that has been omitted in this revised budget without any discussion that I could see. If we need to amend the compact to include this, it might be worth doing. It can be hard to work on big or long-term projects when you have to put everything away entirely after each session so I think excluding personal work areas would exclude a number of people on the list whose primary interests require the execution of such projects. Second-and-a-halfth, is there a posted breakdown on money currently owed?<br>
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Sorry if this has already been covered in previous emails - I know I missed out on the big gathering and coming back to a full inbox leaves me confused and inevitably wandering threads for a few days.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Hol<br>
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