<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi MArina,<div><br></div><div>That's probably a good idea. I feel like I'm just coming out of a fog; I finally got prescribed antibiotics for what has been an ongoing illness for over a month. I also am trying to meet another show deadline for September. So, I'm afraid I am behind with other responsibilities. Tomorrow works for me, anytime in the evening.</div><div><br></div><div>Tracy<br><div><div>On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>what would be a good day for folks who are interested in organizing art murmur stuff to meet?</div><div><br></div><div>is anyone available tomorrow during the day? what about friday evening (a very popular time to work on things, i know ;))? any other times?</div> <div><br></div><div>(i know that thursday is bad for rachel, i can do tomorrow anytime except for around 6:30.)</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>marina</div><div><br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jenny Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jenny@thepyre.org" target="_blank">jenny@thepyre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Forgot to add, you can add to these notes here: <a href="https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom" target="_blank">https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom</a><div><div><br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jenny Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jenny@thepyre.org" target="_blank">jenny@thepyre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><span>Tonight's meeting was seriously rad. Thanks to everyone who participated. Notes below!<br><br>Also, please add to these notes, as much is missing! Specifically, no one was taking notes when we were discussing the current space and actively working out the budget for September.<br> <b><br>-------------------------<u><br>8/20/12</u></b></span></div><div><br></div><div><span><b>Attendees</b></span><span>: max, deno, marc, anthony, jenny, rachel, matt, marina, aestetix</span></div> <div><br></div><div><span><b>Announcements</b></span><span>:</span></div> <div><br></div><div><span>OA Hackathon @ PLOS: saturday/sunday 8/25-8/26: </span><span><a href="http://oahack2012.eventbrite.com/" target="_blank">http://oahack2012.eventbrite.com/</a></span></div> <div><br></div><div><span>Art opening and show at coyote counter collective: saturday 8/25, 2-7PM: 423 40th st: </span><span><a href="http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com/post/29833778448/saturday-8-25-vagabondage-w-special-guests" target="_blank">http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com/post/29833778448/saturday-8-25-vagabondage-w-special-guests</a></span></div> <div><br></div><div><span>Sewing hackspace merging with hackspace: Rachel's sewing collective (</span><span><a href="http://coyotecounter.tumblrcom" target="_blank">http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com</a></span><span> ) has a year in her lease. She is interested in merging with a hackerspace at the end of her lease.</span></div> <div><br></div><div><span>Art Murmur 9/7: live clothes-hacking, sculptures, etc. parties who are interested in working on the next art murmur, when should we meet? MK will email the list to figure out a good day to meet to plan.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span><b>Sudosuite</b></span></div> <div><span>W</span><span>rite a program to enact our budgeting and resource allocation plans.</span></div> <div><ul><li><span>Interested parties: Jenny, Anthony, Marc, Matt, aestetix, </span></li></ul></div><div> <ul><li><span>Existing solutions: paypal, wepay, square, stripe, clearbon, Compare to </span><span><a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software" target="_blank">http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software</a></span></li> </ul></div><div><ul><li><span>See also: metalab's hackerspace OS (</span><span><a href="https://github.com/fhahn/hackerspace-os#readme%29" target="_blank">https://github.com/fhahn/hackerspace-os#readme)</a></span><span>; labitat's model (</span><span><a href="https://github.com/labitat%29" target="_blank">https://github.com/labitat)</a></span><span>, more: </span><span><a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software" target="_blank">http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software</a></span><span> </span></li> </ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Feature Requirements:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul> <li><span>ability to take payments (strong preference to not use square/paypal)</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li> <span>do we want to make available publically who pay and who doesn't? is the budget public (within the membership vs to the outside)?</span></li></ul></div><div> <ul><li><span>ability to issue receipts</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>internal economy/earmarked contributions</span></li> </ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Desirable trades: your own or any other member's future/current dues, member projects, keep in the pot, raising/lowering dues, one time payments, recurring payments</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>track users, status of users, user history</span></li> </ul></div><div><ul><li><span>direct deposit</span></li></ul></div><div><ul> <li><span>tip jar?</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Ideally, this creates a sort of Kickstarter-like system for Sudoers to contribute to group projects</span></li> </ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Group Membership</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div> <span><b>Federation Model</b></span></div><div><ul><li><span>Rachel suggests future potential partnership w/ her art/clothes-hacking co-operative workshop & store (lease ends in a year)</span></li> </ul></div><div><ul><li><span>DIYbio space w/ Ryan and friends</span></li></ul></div><div> <ul><li><span>FixIt Clinic <br></span></li></ul><p><span><br></span></p><p><span>Rachel is nominated to "Chancellor of Punch</span><span>ing</span><span>" - She accepts.</span></p> </div><div><br></div><div><span>Eddan: JOBS Act now open for public comments (specifically re: crowdfunding bill)</span></div> <div><span>-Also suggests funding August rent through soliciting organizational sponsorship</span></div><div><span>--> Matt is not into this idea, thinks we need to cover our own costs and not do this form of sponsorship for the purpose of covering our basic costs</span></div><div><span>-Concerns over 'being beholden' as well as it being too soon to engage in these activities</span></div><div> <span>-Concerns that money should not be involved to be able to sponsor Sudo Room</span></div><div><span>---> Vote of Confidence page!</span></div> <div><span>-The bylaws do allow for group membership </span></div><div><span>-Important to open up </span></div> <div>-Difference between, say, being sponsored by O'Reilly (Matt doesn't like their business model; Rachel points out that they're DARPA-funded) and being sponsored by DanceSafe.. and what 'sponsorship' entails (see 'Non-Monetary Membership', below). <br> <br></div><div><span>SudoPAC?!</span></div><div><span>Eddan's spoken with some District 3 representatives, suggests holding a debate at Sudo Room re: tech & innovation policies in Oakland.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>Becoming Legit (in the eyes of the Powers That Be): Wednesday </span></div> <div><span>-Getting a DBA</span></div><div><span>-Get bank account</span></div> <div><span>--> bring Proof of Existence, the DBA, and the bylaws/compact</span></div><div><br></div><div> <span><b>Non-Monetary Membership</b></span></div><div><span>"Want List" - Every member can vote on one thing they want to have in the space, which gets added to the group's "want list" for non-monetary contributions</span></div><div><span>-Discussion of social justice wrt membership and currency valuation</span></div><div> <span>-Having time is in itself a privilege</span></div><div><span>-One person's labor, and the time put into that labor, is not equivalent to another's - beyond skill/expertise is the individual's background/education/privilege, granting varying levels of choice, resources and responsibilities.<br></span></div><div><span>-Let's work on creating a model that actually levels the playing field.<br> <br>---------<br></span></div>Jenny<br> <a href="http://jennyryan.net/" target="_blank">http://jennyryan.net</a><br> <a href="http://thepyre.org/" target="_blank">http://thepyre.org</a><br> <a href="http://thevirtualcampfire.org/" target="_blank">http://thevirtualcampfire.org</a><br> <a href="http://technomadic.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">http://technomadic.tumblr.com</a><br> <br> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`<br> <div> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."<br> -Laurie Anderson<br> <br> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."<br> -Hannah Arendt<br> <br> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."<br> -Stéphane Mallarmé<br> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`</div> <br> </blockquote></div><br> </div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br> sudoroom mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom" target="_blank">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div> _______________________________________________<br>sudoroom mailing list<br><a href="mailto:sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org">sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>