<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>It turns out the access to the elevator to the second floor is temporarily very complicated. The meditation center is apparently in dispute with the building owner over the noise pollution they anticipate from the opening of a non-profit jazz club & arts center downstairs.<br><br>sent from +1(415) 728-5800</div><div><br>On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:11 PM, "Philip W" <<a href="mailto:dude8604@gmail.com">dude8604@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>


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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Could the meeting be in the upstairs room
in the new space, if we could get access to the elevator?  Any other location
ideas?</span></font></p>

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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> <a href="mailto:sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org">sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>
[mailto:sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=<a href="mailto:gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org">gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael Scroggins<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 13, 2012
4:53 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org">sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [sudoroom] Meeting
tonight 7pm @ Tech Liminal!</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think the
planning/governance meetings should be catholic - and accessible to anyone who
may want to attend. I feel this is particularly important at this time when
there are so many important decisions to be made. <br>
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<br>
Michael <br>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><a href="mailto:eddan@oaklandlocal.com" moz-do-not-send="true">Eddan Katz</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#888888">There is a
common area near the "Orange Closet" that is used by groups in the
building. It doesn't look like it's used much. Probably could only accommodate
10-12 people max without getting unruly. The other consideration is that the
bottom floor, as I had described it last week at the meeting, is a panauracon.
That is, you can hear everything everyone else is saying and/or it feels like
everyone else can hear you.</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#888888">Maybe we
could split into two troops tonight. The 2315 Broadway space could be where our
activity doesn't revolve around talking and would only be about 15 people max.</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#888888">The
advantage of the upstairs room at Tech Liminal is that you can't hear what
anyone else downstairs is saying and/or that people downstairs can't hear them.
How many people can comfortably fit in the upstairs room?</span></font></p>

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On Jun 13, 2012, at 3:32 PM, "Philip W" <<a href="mailto:dude8604@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">dude8604@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Does anyone know if
there’s an elevator to the upstairs area?  I don’t think so but I don’t
know for sure.  If not, could we meet somewhere else?  Maybe one of
the other common areas in the new space?</span></font></p>

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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> <a href="mailto:sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org" moz-do-not-send="true">sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=">mailto:sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=</a><a href="mailto:gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org" moz-do-not-send="true">gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>jenny ryan<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 13, 2012
3:21 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org" moz-do-not-send="true">sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [sudoroom] Meeting
tonight 7pm @ Tech Liminal!</span></font></p>

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Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New \000D\000ARoman"">Since the classroom at the new space is booked
this evening for improv auditions, the always-awesome Anca has agreed to host
our weekly meeting in the upstairs space at Tech Liminal. Wfz</span></font></p>

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Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New \000D\000ARoman"">We need to discuss the new space as well as user
donations. Look forward to seeing you all tonight!</span></font></p>

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Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Does anyone know if
there’s an elevator to the upstairs area?  I don’t think so but I don’t
know for sure.  If not, could we meet somewhere else?  Maybe one of
the other common areas in the new space?</span></font></p>

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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> <a href="mailto:sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org">sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org">mailto:sudoroom-bounces+dude8604=gmail.com@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>jenny ryan<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 13, 2012
3:21 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org">sudoroom@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [sudoroom] Meeting
tonight 7pm @ Tech Liminal!</span></font></p>

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Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New 
Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New \000D\000ARoman"">Since the classroom at the new space is booked
this evening for improv auditions, the always-awesome Anca has agreed to host
our weekly meeting in the upstairs space at Tech Liminal. Wfz</span></font></p>

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Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New \000D\000ARoman"">We need to discuss the new space as well as user
donations. Look forward to seeing you all tonight!</span></font></p>

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