Buy the way - if we do get a nice visible front room with a streetside window, it would be a good idea to put a big poster in the window to announce our presence. Maybe just our logo, and "SUDOROOM: A New Hackerspace for Oakland!" Big enough to fill maybe half the window, but leave plenty of space for people to look in.<br>
<br>I still think that we could put up a similar poster in TechLiminal's window, saying "Now hosting - SUDOROOM: ...". If everyone else seems more excited about moving out of TechLiminal asap, I don't mind being outvoted - just making my voice heard, is all.<br>
<br>Patrik<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marina Kukso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marina.kukso@gmail.com" target="_blank">marina.kukso@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Matt, Eddan, and Timon,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your efforts on this! It's so surprising when things happen fast all of a sudden...</div><div><br></div><div>Before I get into thoughts about the space, following up on Matt's suggestion, we'll be Awaken Cafe downtown starting at 5PM to meet up. If you can make it, come by. If a different time tonight works better for you, send an email to the list.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the space itself, what a fantastic opportunity! This is an absolutely ideal location, is accessible, has a friendly landlord, has month to month rent, is within our estimated budget, has wifi, has a street-facing option, and offers future flexibility to move into more spaces and/or between spaces.</div>
<div><br></div><div>My feeling is that the "box office" option (plus perhaps one of the upstairs rooms and regular access to the classroom) is an excellent starter opportunity for beginning to work on the kinds of things that everyone actually wants to do.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I also think that there are two benefits to having the space beyond actually having the space:</div><div><br></div><div>1) A visible space brings in new potential members (and more potential money)</div>
<div>2) A space helps all of us sudoers to maintain energy, momentum, and interest with something to focus on and work to maintain - it creates "facts on the ground," so to speak.</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, if we wait for the perfect space, it may never come. This spot fits the initial sudo "room" concept we've been thinking about the last few months (it's short-term, flexible, small initial capital required, and allows for expansion).</div>
<div><br></div><div>I really support it.</div><div><br></div><div>Look forward to seeing all of you tonight at 5 at awaken cafe downtown if you can make it, and if not, tomorrow at the scouting event at 2PM at OG Plaza (bring bike if you have it).</div>
<div><br></div><div>- Marina</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jenny Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jenny@thepyre.org" target="_blank">jenny@thepyre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Matt, and also Eddan & Timon - thanks for moving on this! I think this could be a fantastic initial space for Sudo Room..<br><br>Location is great, though 150 square feet is absurdly small. How big is the classroom we could use?<br>
<br>Overpriced for the size, imho, but the visibility we could definitely work wrt outreach for the group... though with the rest of the building's amenities available to us, might be a good bet. <br><br>Would love to meet on Saturday, though would have to be early afternoon for me to make it (send-off party for our yurt builder & current resident, Morten, in our garden on Saturday starting around 4! email me if you'd like to come :)<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Eddie A Tejeda <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eddie.tejeda@gmail.com" target="_blank">eddie.tejeda@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Matt.. thanks for leading this. I think this is a great opportunity. If I understand this correctly, there are multiple spaces available and we can start with one and move into other ones as needed? If that's the case I think it makes perfect sense to start with the smaller space and grow as needed.<br>
<br>I also this it's a cool location. When do you need to make the decision by?<br><br>--<br>Eddie A Tejeda<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Matthew Senate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Howdy Folks,<br><br>We've been in search of a space. There are lots of options, and bigger, brighter futures rest on the horizon.<br>
<br></div></div>On Weds, Eddan found this listing on craigslist: <a href="http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3036298243.html" target="_blank">http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3036298243.html</a> seen here: <a href="https://mapsgoogle.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37.810827,-122.26721&spn=0.003458,0.005284&hnear=Broadway+%26+22nd+St,+Oakland,+Alameda,+California+94612&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.810651,-122.267318&panoid=VXpIKY0QFTgDutXU5EfIag&cbp=12,284.7,,0,11.24" target="_blank">https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37.810827,-122.26721&spn=0.003458,0.005284&hnear=Broadway+%26+22nd+St,+Oakland,+Alameda,+California+94612&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.810651,-122267318&panoid=VXpIKY0QFTgDutXU5EfIag&cbp=12,284.7,,0,11.24</a><div>
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<br>I gave George, the property manager, a call. I had seen some other offices in his space months before, he has lots of spaces and they come up for rent often. All month-to-month contracts, and a lease if we really want one He said he was available today at 3pm. I showed up and Eddan and Timon joined in.<div>
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<br>We saw three offices. I have photographs stored on a proprietary memory device and will retrieve them ASAP upon apprehension of the proper cable.<br><br>1. $500 / month 350 sq ft - The LISTED ROOM - has WiFi access, on the ground floor, outlets, lights. It is a good deal for the size, but it is not very close to the street. One must walk through a hallway, through a half-office, and down another hallway (all disability accessible) to get to it. This is not bad, just a bit removed from public view.<br>
<br>2. $400 / month (no exact measure, but about 150 sq. ft). - The BOX OFFICE (calling it that for short). Has a window, is just a few feet inside public-facing street-level doors in the same area as the LISTED ROOM. Also has WiFi Access. Sits directly outside a shared building "classroom" area available to all renters, just sign up ahead of time. If we rent the BOX OFFICE, we can occasionally use the LISTED ROOM while it's open<br>
<br></div><div>3. $350 / month (no exact measure, but no bigger than 400 sq ft) - The DOUBLE OFFICE is upstairs, at the very top of the entrance steps. It has access to an unused, common "reception" area that would be available for our usage. It has cable and wifi internet access. The DOUBLE OFFICE includes two offices that are connected, side-by-side. The rear door has<br>
<br>All rooms have access to the "classroom" area on the ground floor, just need to sign up as described above. The building just got faster WIFI service provided by Sonic.net installed recently. George is interested in providing line-access to internet in all ground floor offices in the future, we could also do this ourselves he offered. <br>
<br>Also, we can potentially rent multiple of these spaces, or move from one to other available spaces in the building at a later time. <br>
<br>In order to move forward with this space (and not to lose footing), I have a proposal:<br><br><b>Sudo Room should consider "dipping" it's toe into the BOX OFFICE space (no. 2 above) by investing a portion of our fund-raiser funds of $200 first month (50% off for move-in), $400 obligatory for last month (which can be july if we wish), and a redeemable $400 deposit--at a grand total of $1,000, lasting to at least July</b>. This would only commit us to two months in the space, the first month of which (June) we can sort out all the precise governance, tax, and income issues, by consensus, in order to move forward (remain, expand, or move) with this space and our future!<br>
<br>I propose we hold a discussion on this email thread, use our other online tools, convene an in-person meetup on Saturday (anywhere that's available), consider all the issues and list them on the wiki, convene briefly again on Sunday with whoever can make the "scout session" (still on), and plan to move forward on Monday having begun due diligence to consider if we have the blessings of our community!<br>
<br>Please add notes in reply to this thread, on this pad (for anonymous communication too): <a href="https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom" target="_blank">https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom</a> and ultimately we'll put everything on the Wiki on Saturday to sort out by Monday. <br>
<br>On clarifying note: it seems to me that it would be prudent to maintain the Sunday "scouting" event for due diligence reasons, and for future option reasons!<br><br>// Matt<br><br>p.s. Note that time is crucial because other folks (including some we bumped into while on tour) are also looking at these spaces, and with the first of the month approaching, it is in the property manager's best interest to move folks in soon. <br>
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