Anyone is free to stop by Ace Monster Toys (or to a lesser extent Liberating Ourselves Locally, they've just started up and so are not open as regularly from what I understand) if you want a place to just hack on stuff with other people while you wait for sudoroom to get off the ground. AMT is neither pro or anti politics. The organization itself doesn't take a stance on any issue, but lots of our members work on politically motivated projects. One guy was working on quadcopters to get footage of occupy protests for example. There was a RECALL QUAN sign in our space for a while...but someone hacked it into a RUSSEL QUAN sign.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Andrew Hoerner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:towardvictory@gmail.com" target="_blank">towardvictory@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear folks--<br>I personally am all for mixing politics with hacking. My politics motivate my hacking, and vice versa. If I had to separate them, I would not do either one as well or as happily.<br><br>But it seems to me that sudoroom has moved from being a group that supports hacking to being a group that organizes a future space that supports hacking. Organizing and hacking are both great, and I support, and do, both. But its hard to hack in a room full of people organizing. <br>
<br>Is there anyone else who would like to separate hackertime from organizertime? Are there other people besides me who want to hack now, and not just later when the better space is available? It could, I think, be in the same space. I know Anca has been talking about splitting the space in two, so there is a hackerspace and organizerspace (albeit a hackerorganizerspace) at Tech Liminal at the same time, but that would mean that the sudoroom people would have to choose one or the other and could not do both. <br>
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<br>Andrew Hoerner<br>
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