This is a really great conversation and I love seeing everyone's perspectives. The hackerspace / maker / creative / social club / coworking / business pie is as large as our imaginative community and there is room for all ideas. <div>
<br></div><div>I'd like to speak here from my personal perspective as Anca, rather than Tech Liminal, the business.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm interested in participating in a hacker space as a member, and I find the motivation towards openness and social justice very compelling. It fits my personal vision about what a just and fair society should be, and our personal efforts as citizens to create opportunity and cool stuff instead of dividing ourselves from each other. I support the concept of following the hacker code of ethics and creating a space where all is welcome.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm more interested in the actual making of stuff - experimenting, hacking, and creating. There are plenty of other forums for endlessly debating politics. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm also particularly biased towards a location that would be walking distance from Tech Liminal (e.g. in Downtown Oakland) and/or near a bus line that goes to my house. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Anca.</div><div><br></div><span></span><div><br>On Thursday, May 10, 2012, Jenny Ryan wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
As an addendum, I did not mean to imply that coworking spaces or coffeeshops are not relevant to community-oriented projects & activism - clearly there are exceptions (such as Tech Liminal!) - merely that I'm dedicated to creating a space where such work is a core principle from the start (rather than profit, which is necessarily a core component of traditional businesses).<br>
<br clear="all">Jenny<br>
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-Laurie Anderson<br>
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