[sudoroom] Sudoroom open!

[Jehan Tremback]

Email that I sent out a while ago, may be relevant:

Interesting discussion last night. I'm glad we were able to touch upon some
of the issues surrounding membership, rules, and access.

The issue of rules and dispute resolution came up. Somebody said something
along the lines of "We shouldn't try to solve problems we don't have yet,
if there is a problem in the future, we have a dispute resolution process".

What I got from that is that we should strive to avoid bureaucracy, by
using case-by-case conflict resolution instead of rules made in advance,
keeping the organization organic and flexible.


I'll make an observation, feel free to point out if I'm wrong-

If a rule is made ahead of time, it is made in a neutral context. Nobody is
being judged. Members agree on certain guidelines which they feel will be
conducive to the proper functioning of the space. If, in the future,
somebody is engaging in conduct which may be an issue, it is largely an
objective decision by the members as to whether or not the conduct violates
the rules that have been laid out.

If the decision on what is acceptable is deferred until there is an
issue,  it becomes an intensely personal issue. Somebody needs to raise the
issue as a conflict to be dealt with in the conflict resolution process.
They then need to shepherd the conflict through the conflict resolution
process so that it is dealt with. The person who is the subject of the
conflict resolution process will feel that the person who raised the issue
has a personal vendetta against them.


TL;DR: A conflict resolution process presupposes conflict. If a large
number of questions are deferred to a future conflict resolution process, a
large number of conflicts will need to occur in the future for these
questions to be answered.


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Jehan Tremback
<jehan.tremback at gmail.com>wrote:

> What is a member?
> On Dec 14, 2012 7:14 PM, "David Rorex" <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is Timon a member? If yes, maybe you could have given him a key and had
>> him lock up later? If not a member, then it was definitely within your
>> rights to ask him to leave.
>>
>> Though, if there's one person left in the space, would have been much
>> more polite to talk to him directly instead of announcing to the air and
>> then turning off the lights. (My apologies if that's not what happened, but
>> that's what the email makes it sound like)
>>
>> Also, living in the space is not prohibited by the compact, just
>> "strongly discouraged". If people want to actually prohibit it (which I
>> highly recommend, unless you do actually want part of sudoroom's function
>> to be a temporary living space), should update that wording.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Last night around 2am I was in the space with Andrew and Timon. As the
>>> only person left with keys, I announced that I was locking up the space and
>>> that it was time to leave. Timon was in the sound studio/radio room and
>>> continued to whistle and sing while I repeated several times that I was
>>> closing down the space. Finally I turned off the lights, and Timon
>>> approached me rather aggressively, stating repeatedly that he was not
>>> leaving.
>>>
>>> I have very reasonable boundaries when it comes to aggression and
>>> violent behavior. I felt threatened and left the space stating that I was
>>> going to call the police. Luckily it didn't come to that, and Timon left
>>> the building after ten minutes or so.
>>>
>>> At no point did Timon inform me that he had been locked out of his
>>> apartment and needed a place to stay for the night. Regardless, sudo room
>>> is not a hostel, as explicitly defined in our Compact, and last night's
>>> incident is the second time I have felt unsafe in Timon's presence.
>>>
>>> We as a community have committed ourselves to creating a safe space. I
>>> am also concerned for Timon and will dedicate some time to providing
>>> informational resources re: nearby shelter and humanitarian support. I have
>>> also already spoken with George (the landlord) about this incident. He was
>>> very understanding and supportive and has said he will speak to Timon.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all who have reached out. Sudo Room is overwhelmingly composed
>>> of wonderful people.
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>> On Dec 14, 2012 9:34 AM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan at eddan.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Timon -
>>>>
>>>> Didn't see these messages until just now this morning. Did you make it
>>>> through the night OK?
>>>> It would be really useful to figure out how to be helpful to you if you
>>>> can let us know what's going on.
>>>>
>>>> As for the dispute resolution concern, it seems to me that it is
>>>> actually working as intended. You have a complaint, you've raised it on the
>>>> list, and now it has been put on the agenda for next week's meeting. How
>>>> far we go into trying to solve this dispute is somewhat in your control at
>>>> this point. I'd rather not go too far down that road, with people making
>>>> accusations against each other.
>>>>
>>>> It seems like the best thing to do may be for you to suggest ways in
>>>> which we could figure out as a community how to help you out, if you choose
>>>> to stay in the community. It is a lot more difficult responding to urgent
>>>> calls for help in the middle of the night, as I tried to respond to your
>>>> earlier email. I have no idea what happened last night, but I can imagine
>>>> the situation might have been complicated by the fact that there is mention
>>>> of Sudo Room as a space for habitation in the Compact.
>>>>
>>>> sent from eddan.com
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 3:03 AM, timondocent at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Someone who has Bern abusively abrupt (to be polite) to me before and
>>>> to another in my sight has now consigned me to the 47degF streets at
>>>> 2:30am, and will now become the person who causes my creation of a rival
>>>> space, with true transparent dispute resolution.
>>>>  Duck that. I will not be shat on. If I "join" sudoroom it will be only
>>>> as an addition to sudo space or spaces where everyone who can stay civil
>>>> and kind is welcome, and whence I launch our As Yet To Be Named Academy
>>>> Eddan wouldn't accept my money before bankaccount day, so please calculate
>>>> my past due dues, and let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my HTC One™ S on T-Mobile, two companies now forever to be
>>>> infamous for opt-out piggyback-vector viral marketing.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>> From: "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Sudoroom" <sudoroom at lists.hackerspaces.org>
>>>> Subject: [sudoroom] Sudoroom open!
>>>> Date: Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:11 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sudo room is open
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Dec 8, 2012 10:12 AM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, sudo room is open and coffee is brewing. :)
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