[sudoroom] Art murmur planning - meet this week?

Marina Kukso marina.kukso at gmail.com
Wed Aug 22 06:25:39 CEST 2012


Hi all,

Tracy, very glad to hear you're better.

tomorrow evening is less good for me.

friday at coyote counter collective at 6PM sounds good to me - tracy and
anyone else, would that time work for you?

- marina

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:58 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

> Glad to hear you are on the mend, tracy! I guess tonight was too soon to
> get a meeting together. How do folks feel about Friday? I am working my
> store on Friday, till 6pm close, if folks are into it we could meet there?
> It might be fun.
>
> R.
>
> mediumreality.com
> On Aug 21, 2012 4:58 PM, "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi MArina,
>>
>> That's probably a good idea.  I feel like I'm just coming out of a fog; I
>> finally got prescribed antibiotics for what has been an ongoing illness for
>> over a month.  I also am trying to meet another show deadline for
>> September.  So, I'm afraid I am behind with other responsibilities.
>>  Tomorrow works for me, anytime in the evening.
>>
>> Tracy
>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
>>
>> hi everyone,
>>
>> what would be a good day for folks who are interested in organizing art
>> murmur stuff to meet?
>>
>> is anyone available tomorrow during the day? what about friday evening (a
>> very popular time to work on things, i know ;))? any other times?
>>
>> (i know that thursday is bad for rachel, i can do tomorrow anytime except
>> for around 6:30.)
>>
>> thanks,
>> marina
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Forgot to add, you can add to these notes here:
>>> https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tonight's meeting was seriously rad. Thanks to everyone who
>>>> participated. Notes below!
>>>>
>>>> Also, please add to these notes, as much is missing! Specifically, no
>>>> one was taking notes when we were discussing the current space and actively
>>>> working out the budget for September.
>>>> *
>>>> -------------------------
>>>> 8/20/12*
>>>>
>>>> *Attendees*: max, deno, marc, anthony, jenny, rachel, matt, marina,
>>>> aestetix
>>>>
>>>> *Announcements*:
>>>>
>>>> OA Hackathon @ PLOS: saturday/sunday 8/25-8/26:
>>>> http://oahack2012.eventbrite.com/
>>>>
>>>> Art opening and show at coyote counter collective: saturday 8/25,
>>>> 2-7PM: 423 40th st:
>>>> http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com/post/29833778448/saturday-8-25-vagabondage-w-special-guests
>>>>
>>>> Sewing hackspace merging with hackspace: Rachel's sewing collective (
>>>> http://coyotecounter.tumblr.com <http://coyotecounter.tumblrcom> ) has
>>>> a year in her lease. She is interested in merging with a hackerspace at the
>>>> end of her lease.
>>>>
>>>> Art Murmur 9/7: live clothes-hacking, sculptures, etc. parties who are
>>>> interested in working on the next art murmur, when should we meet? MK will
>>>> email the list to figure out a good day to meet to plan.
>>>>
>>>> *Sudosuite*
>>>> Write a program to enact our budgeting and resource allocation plans.
>>>>
>>>>    - Interested parties: Jenny, Anthony, Marc, Matt, aestetix,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Existing solutions: paypal, wepay, square, stripe, clearbon,
>>>>    Compare to http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - See also: metalab's hackerspace OS (
>>>>    https://github.com/fhahn/hackerspace-os#readme); labitat's model (
>>>>    https://github.com/labitat), more:
>>>>    http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hackerspace_Software
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Feature Requirements:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - ability to take payments (strong preference to not use
>>>>    square/paypal)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - do we want to make available publically who pay and who doesn't?
>>>>    is the budget public (within the membership vs to the outside)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - ability to issue receipts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - internal economy/earmarked contributions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Desirable trades: your own or any other member's future/current
>>>>    dues, member projects, keep in the pot, raising/lowering dues, one time
>>>>    payments, recurring payments
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - track users, status of users, user history
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - direct deposit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - tip jar?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Ideally, this creates a sort of Kickstarter-like system for
>>>>    Sudoers to contribute to group projects
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Group Membership
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Federation Model*
>>>>
>>>>    - Rachel suggests future potential partnership w/ her
>>>>    art/clothes-hacking co-operative workshop & store (lease ends in a year)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - DIYbio space w/ Ryan and friends
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - FixIt Clinic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rachel is nominated to "Chancellor of Punching" - She accepts.
>>>>
>>>> Eddan: JOBS Act now open for public comments (specifically re:
>>>> crowdfunding bill)
>>>> -Also suggests funding August rent through soliciting organizational
>>>> sponsorship
>>>> --> Matt is not into this idea, thinks we need to cover our own costs
>>>> and not do this form of sponsorship for the purpose of covering our basic
>>>> costs
>>>> -Concerns over 'being beholden' as well as it being too soon to engage
>>>> in these activities
>>>>  -Concerns that money should not be involved to be able to sponsor
>>>> Sudo Room
>>>> ---> Vote of Confidence page!
>>>> -The bylaws do allow for group membership
>>>> -Important to open up
>>>> -Difference between, say, being sponsored by O'Reilly (Matt doesn't
>>>> like their business model; Rachel points out that they're DARPA-funded) and
>>>> being sponsored by DanceSafe.. and what 'sponsorship' entails (see
>>>> 'Non-Monetary Membership', below).
>>>>
>>>> SudoPAC?!
>>>> Eddan's spoken with some District 3 representatives, suggests holding a
>>>> debate at Sudo Room re: tech & innovation policies in Oakland.
>>>>
>>>> Becoming Legit (in the eyes of the Powers That Be):
>>>> Wednesday
>>>> -Getting a DBA
>>>> -Get bank account
>>>> --> bring Proof of Existence, the DBA, and the bylaws/compact
>>>>
>>>> *Non-Monetary Membership*
>>>> "Want List" - Every member can vote on one thing they want to have in
>>>> the space, which gets added to the group's "want list" for non-monetary
>>>> contributions
>>>> -Discussion of social justice wrt membership and currency valuation
>>>> -Having time is in itself a privilege
>>>> -One person's labor, and the time put into that labor, is not
>>>> equivalent to another's - beyond skill/expertise is the individual's
>>>> background/education/privilege, granting varying levels of choice,
>>>> resources and responsibilities.
>>>> -Let's work on creating a model that actually levels the playing field.
>>>>
>>>> ---------
>>>> Jenny
>>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>
>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>  "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
>>>> it."
>>>>  -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>
>>>>
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