[sudoroom] IMPORTANT POLL & Meetup Was Awesome

David Rorex drorex at gmail.com
Sat Dec 31 02:05:08 CET 2011


Unfortunately for us, description #8 is what the majority of people by and
large associate with the word 'hacker'. Hence why some people have started
using 'maker' instead to describe pretty much the same thing. Maker just
doesn't sound as l33t though which is a problem IMO.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Paul Ivanov <pi at berkeley.edu> wrote:

>
> Matthew Senate, on 2011-12-30 12:21,  wrote:
> > p.s. poll link again: http://sudoroom.limequery.com/93385/lang-en
>
> Thanks for putting this together, Matt, and it was nice meeting
> everyone else.
>
> As a point of information regarding our discussion on the use of
> language when communicating with potential landlords, I filled
> out the above survey from a cafe with wifi, and when I tried
> clicking the link to go back to the hackerspace wiki, was greeted
> with this message:
>
>    --------
>    This site is blocked by the SonicWALL Content Filter Service.
>
>    URL: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room
>
>    Reason for restriction: Forbidden Category "Hacking/Proxy
>    Avoidance Systems"
>    --------
>
> The public, at large, still does not understand an appropriate
> definition for the term "hacker" - so here's the one from the
> Jargon File (which Mark and I shamed Matt for not knowing about!
> :) )
>
> hacker: n.
> [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe]
>
> 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable
> systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most
> users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392,
> the Internet Users' Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A
> person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the
> internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in
> particular.
>
> 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who
> enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.
>
> 3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.
>
> 4. A person who is good at programming quickly.
>
> 5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does
> work using it or on it; as in ‘a Unix hacker’. (Definitions 1
> through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)
>
> 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy
> hacker, for example.
>
> 7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively
> overcoming or circumventing limitations.
>
> 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover
> sensitive information by poking around. Hence password hacker,
> network hacker. The correct term for this sense is cracker.
>
> The term ‘hacker’ also tends to connote membership in the global
> community defined by the net (see the network. For discussion of
> some of the basics of this culture, see the How To Become A
> Hacker FAQ. It also implies that the person described is seen to
> subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic (see hacker ethic).
>
> It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to
> describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something
> of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which
> new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego
> satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but
> if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled
> bogus). See also geek, wannabee.
>
> This term seems to have been first adopted as a badge in the
> 1960s by the hacker culture surrounding TMRC and the MIT AI Lab.
> We have a report that it was used in a sense close to this
> entry's by teenage radio hams and electronics tinkerers in the
> mid-1950s.
>
> http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
>
> best,
> --
> Paul Ivanov
> http://pirsquared.org | GPG/PGP key id: 0x0F3E28F7
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