<html><head></head><body>Yay, drama. It's what hackers are best at! Bye bye mailing list.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 May 2016 18:26:04 CEST, Michael Turner <michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><br /></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:55 AM, cole santos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cksantos85@gmail.com" target="_blank">cksantos85@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Actually we took the DarPA money and the project was a great success. <a href="http://Www.spacegambit.Com" target="_blank">Www.spacegambit.Com</a></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>A great success for some people, I suppose. In a certain sense.<br /><br />I pick a project at random.</div><div><br /></div><div><a href="http://www.spacegambit.org/satstatsim/">http://www.spacegambit.org/satstatsim/</a></div><div><div><br /></div><div>Funding: $20,000<br /><br />SpaceGAMBIT claim: only open source projects will be funded.<div><br /></div><div>Reality: well, ta!
ke a
look.<br /><br /> <a href="http://satstatsim.blogspot.jp/">http://satstatsim.blogspot.jp/</a></div><div><br /></div><div>Excuse: "schedules slip". OK, but you can't check in any code, anywhere?</div><div><br /> <a href="https://code.google.com/archive/p/satstatsim/source">https://code.google.com/archive/p/satstatsim/source</a><br /><br />At least, that's the only repo I could find.</div></div></div><div><br /></div><div>There's nothing in it.</div><div><br /></div><div>It was largely because of my concerns about openness, clear communication, democratic process, and leadership accountability that I decided to have nothing further to do with SpaceGAMBIT. This was after feeling enthusiastic about it and even defending it against what I thought was unfair criticism.</div><div><br /></div><div>Really, I'd prefer to have been wrong in my suspicions.</div><div><div><br /></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" /><div><div
class="gmail_signature">Regards,<br />Michael Turner<br />Executive Director<br />Project Persephone<br />K-1 bldg 3F<br />7-2-6 Nishishinjuku<br />Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0023<br />Tel: +81 (3) 6890-1140<br />Fax: +81 (3) 6890-1158<br />Mobile: +81 (90) 5203-8682<br /><a href="mailto:turner@projectpersephone.org" target="_blank">turner@projectpersephone.org</a><br /><a href="http://www.projectpersephone.org/" target="_blank">http://www.projectpersephone.org/</a><br /><br />"Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward together in the same direction." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry</div></div></div></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="h5"><div><br />On Monday, May 16, 2016, Michael P Weber II <<a href="mailto:michaelweberii@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelweberii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 3:05 AM, Michael Turner<br />
<<a>michael.eugene.turner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br />
> Whether intentional or not, the choice of watercress could be very<br />
> space-relevant.<br />
><br />
> (1) Biosphere II saw the direct participation of the late Roy Walford, MD, a<br />
> pioneer self-experimenter in CRON (calorie restriction with optimal<br />
> nutrition) as a strategy for life extension. This research interested the<br />
> Biosphere II organizers because, in feeding long-duration space mission<br />
> participants, fewer calories eaten means, to a good first approximation,<br />
> less mass for the ecological life support system, leading to lower mission<br />
> cost, etc.<br />
><br />
> (2) Research into how CRON appears to increase lifespans (in part by<br />
> reducing cancer risk -- a big issue in space travel because of space<br />
> radiation) reveals that it's more about protein restriction than about<br />
> calorie restriction per se.<br />
><br />
> (3) Further research has suggested that it's specifically reduction of<br />
> methionine intake that is the main driver of life extension in CRON (hence,<br />
> presumably, lower cancer risk);<br />
><br />
> (4) High-glycine diets sop up excess methionine. (To be sure: methionine is<br />
> an essential amino acid; glycine is not. But it seems that with methionine,<br />
> you can get too much of a good thing.)<br />
><br />
> (5) Watercress is very high in glycine, quite low in methionine. Watercress<br />
> might be ideal for offsetting the cancer risks from space radiation in<br />
> long-duration space missions.<br />
><br />
> I think a good next step in such work would be to try to optimize watercress<br />
> production in an aeroponic rather than a hydroponic style. Hydroponics is<br />
> great, highly productive, but ... water is heavy. Aeroponics can give you<br />
> much of the benefit of hydroponics but with a fraction of the equipment<br />
> mass. Aeroponics should be more adaptable to low-g and microgravity<br />
> environments since it's not gravity-dependent -- it's basically just the<br />
> deposition of nutrient-enriched mist droplets on plant roots. Aeroponics may<br />
> have gotten its start from NASA funding.<br />
><br />
><br />
> Regards,<br />
> Michael Turner<br />
> Executive Director<br />
> Project Persephone<br />
> K-1 bldg 3F<br />
> 7-2-6 Nishishinjuku<br />
> Shinjuku-ku Tokyo 160-0023<br />
> Tel: <a href="tel:%2B81%20%283%29%206890-1140" value="+81368901140" target="_blank">+81 (3) 6890-1140</a><br />
> Fax: <a href="tel:%2B81%20%283%29%206890-1158" value="+81368901158" target="_blank">+81 (3) 6890-1158</a><br />
> Mobile: <a href="tel:%2B81%20%2890%29%205203-8682" value="+819052038682" target="_blank">+81 (90) 5203-8682</a><br />
> <a>turner@projectpersephone.org</a><br />
> <a href="http://www.projectpersephone.org/" target="_blank">http://www.projectpersephone.org/</a><br />
><br />
> "Love does not consist in gazing at each other, but in looking outward<br />
> together in the same direction." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry<br />
><br />
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Michael Turner<br />
<br />
<br />
Michael,<br />
<br />
Are you going to take over the list then?<br />
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