here is a link better describing the advantages of helikites:<br><br><a href="http://www.allsopp.co.uk/index.php?mod=page&id_pag=24">http://www.allsopp.co.uk/index.php?mod=page&id_pag=24</a><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Lee von Kraus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leevonk@gmail.com" target="_blank">leevonk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Alex, no offense taken, but you somehow managed to restate as your own almost every part of the idea that I posted in the original email,...<br><br>As for what to use as an aerostat, I provided a link in the first email that describes a kite/balloon hybrid ('helikite') that would probably work really well. The balloon part allows it to stay up in zero wind and the kite part adds stability and lift in high wind conditions.<br>
<br>Matt, that's a really good idea. The climbing mechanism could be useful but also, as in the space elevators, the power supply for the helikite's winch mechanism could be delivered via laser from the ground. That way the helikite wouldn't have to hold up the weight of power supply cables too.<div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Matt Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:railmeat@gmail.com" target="_blank">railmeat@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It sounds like you should talk to the space elevator folks about<br>
climbing tether quickly.<br>
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--<br>
Matt Johnson<br>
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On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths<br>
<<a href="mailto:alexcg@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexcg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Maybe have a line tethered to a weather balloon and have payloads somehow<br>
> get 'carried' up the line like a cable car. That way can do tests much more<br>
> quickly since don't have to send balloon up and down all the time.<br>
><br>
> Having said that, I have no idea how you could pull that off myself :) Could<br>
> also use a kite instead of a weather balloon, though not sure if could get<br>
> to the right altitude<br>
><br>
> On 3 Oct, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Lee von Kraus wrote:<br>
><br>
> How about making and demonstrating a miniature microgravity 'generator' to<br>
> allow DIY testing of things in microgravity on earth. It would be pretty<br>
> easy and cheap and would open space research to the masses by allowing short<br>
> duration generation of microgravity conditions. It could be a<br>
> weather-balloon-dropped capsule or something with cameras build into the<br>
> inside to allow observation of whatever short duration experiment one is<br>
> interested in. This is a relatively quick and easy project that would help<br>
> attract attention and funding, while also facilitating hackerspaces in doing<br>
> their own future experiments.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Jerry Isdale <<a href="mailto:jerry@mauimakers.com" target="_blank">jerry@mauimakers.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Apparently Arthur C Clarke did a story on Solar Sail racing (Sunjammer,<br>
>> aka The Wind from the Sun, ~1963)<br>
>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunjammer" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunjammer</a><br>
>><br>
>> A graphic novel/short of it is at<br>
>> <a href="http://240plan.ovh.net/~upngmmxw/imag/bd/bd_a.htm" target="_blank">http://240plan.ovh.net/~upngmmxw/imag/bd/bd_a.htm</a><br>
>><br>
>> Jerry Isdale<br>
>> <a href="http://MauiMakers.com" target="_blank">http://MauiMakers.com</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/" target="_blank">http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/</a><br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 1, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Matt Johnson wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I think that is an outstanding idea. It is rather ambitious, has<br>
>> anyone even been able to steer a solar sail yet?<br>
>><br>
>> I agree with Alex a spacers cup might attract some real money.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Matt Johnson<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Jerry Isdale <<a href="mailto:isdale@gmail.com" target="_blank">isdale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> What do you think of a challenge to sail a solar sail around 3 earth<br>
>><br>
>> Lagrange points?<br>
>><br>
>> Would it be possible to control a sail to navigate around three such<br>
>> points?<br>
>><br>
>> Maybe have a Spacers Cup, akin to America's Cup sail race.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Jerry Isdale<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="mailto:isdale@gmail.com" target="_blank">isdale@gmail.com</a><br>
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