This is J. Simmons from Mach 30 (<a href="http://mach30.org/">http://mach30.org/</a>). To answer the question about fines and jail time for ITAR violations, check out this part of the Wikipedia article to get an idea of how far the US government will go to enforce it.<div>
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For more info, check out the Annotated ITAR (<a href="http://www.ndia.org/Resources/ExportImportComplianceResources/Pages/AnnotatedITAR.aspx">http://www.ndia.org/Resources/ExportImportComplianceResources/Pages/AnnotatedITAR.aspx</a>). And you can see Mach 30's strategy for dealing with ITAR here (<a href="http://mach30.org/2011/10/25/what-about-itar/">http://mach30.org/2011/10/25/what-about-itar/</a>). As a side note, the idea of developing technology for an alternate use case like underwater habitats is very much in line with some of our thinking.</div>
<div><br></div><div> -J<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM, David <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ainut@hiwaay.net" target="_blank">ainut@hiwaay.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Um, how can that be? Has it happened to you?<div class="im"><br>
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under ITAR - that is USA residents can talk about the technical
details on public forums, conferences, etc. Discussions of tech
for space itself (eg rockets, guidance, launch etc) will quickly
attract attention of US Dept of State and can result in big fines
and jail time.
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><a href="http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/" target="_blank">http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/</a></div>
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This got me to thinking about HSP supporting underwater
habitats, education and research.
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<div>+1 from me. I think that's a great way to engage the
earth-bound community, and a great way to trial aspects of
space-bound research prior to deployment in space.</div>
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<div>> a neighbor who mentioned noticing my participation
in the OpenROV project</div>
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<div> Great to see the KickStarter was funded so well!</div>
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<div> <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/openrov/openrov-the-open-source-underwater-robot?" target="_blank">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/openrov/openrov-the-open-source-underwater-robot?</a></div>
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