<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Additionally, as a US Corporation (501c3 or otherwise) HSP (or whatever we call it) needs to vet its members and their designated representatives to avoid conflicts with IRS code (if we are 501c3) and various laws on international business (specifically some dealing with supporting terrorism). The latter can get us into big trouble, if a member space is suddenly declared/found to be supporting activities deemed in opposition to USGovt.<div><br></div><div>Thats a big stumbling block for us and many member spaces. it can be particularly tricky to determine ahead of time if a particular person or hackerspace is in deemed suspect by USGovt. Of course the govt wont tell, and people probably would not know. bleech.</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Apr 21, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Jerry Isdale wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">28 pages?!<div><br></div><div>Membership is a big area we need to discuss. Existing text is geared towards individuals rather than organizations as members. (eg section on proxies, death, etc)</div><div><br></div><div>The proposal concept had some variation built into it...</div><div><br></div><div>Section F Organization, Ownership</div><div><p style="margin-bottom: 0.14in; line-height: 100%; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto"> membership of the HSP organization is open to all individuals and
organizations who choose to join, but strategic decision making ... is carried
out by a group of Hackerspace representatives who are acknowledged by
their peers to possess leadership qualities needed in the HSP
organization </p></div><div><div style="margin-bottom: 0.14in; line-height: 100%; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto; ">
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<font face="Calibri">Structure of the HSP organization</font></h3><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p style="margin-bottom: 0.14in; line-height: 100%; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto">the HSP organization, designs, directions, and bylaws are decided by a
majority vote of all participating Hackerspaces on the basis of one
Hackerspace, one vote. New Hackerspaces join by being voted in by majority. ... each hackerspace will elect a member to represent them on the HSP
board.</p><div>=--===</div><div><br></div><div>Roughly, the idea was that external organizations (Hackerspaces) would petition for membership, get accepted by majority vote, and then elect a representative.</div><div><br></div><div>Do we allow for individuals outside of hackerspaces?</div><div>Can an individual be a member themselves, AND be a member of a member hackerspace? Member of Multiple Hackerspaces - with votes in each? What if an individual is elected to represent multiple spaces to HSP?</div><div><br></div><div>If people are to be representatives, then the spaces should have a designated Alternate if they are unavailable to attend meetings or otherwise carry out their representative duties.</div><div><br></div><div>Are member spaces/individuals the only ones who are eligible for HSP grants? Or can an outside individual's proposal be funded?</div><div><br></div><div>We need to find some example ByLaws of organizations that have representative memberships (industry organizations? chamber of commerce?)</div><div><br></div>
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<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Jerry Isdale</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><a href="http://MauiMakers.com/">http://MauiMakers.com</a></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><a href="http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/">http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/</a></div></div>
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<br><div><div>On Apr 21, 2012, at 9:14 AM, cole santos wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L-0iNecrS5xH7_hVmvo14qcXr7sqMdQFXsR0mMYBrJ8/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L-0iNecrS5xH7_hVmvo14qcXr7sqMdQFXsR0mMYBrJ8/edit</a><br><br><br>check it out and comment please<br>_______________________________________________<br>SpaceProgram mailing list<br><a href="mailto:SpaceProgram@lists.hackerspaces.org">SpaceProgram@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/spaceprogram<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>SpaceProgram mailing list<br><a href="mailto:SpaceProgram@lists.hackerspaces.org">SpaceProgram@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/spaceprogram<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>