<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>+1<br><br>On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:27 PM, Tim Miller <<a href="mailto:timmillertech@gmail.com">timmillertech@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div>I have been thinking of a way to collect iron oxide from the soil and use solar sintering to create parts, tools, building parts.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:24 PM, cole santos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cksantos85@gmail.com">cksantos85@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Scientifically important but commercially irrelevant. hMicrobial life<br>
on Mars would excite no one after a few months. I mean people stopped<br>
watching the Apollo launches at the time because it became mundane.<br>
The average person doesn't care about space probably never will and<br>
for venture capital the risk is insane. Mars is a waste of time, short<br>
science and tourism.<br>
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Ian Eyberg <<a href="mailto:ian@flirtrs.com">ian@flirtrs.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Mars is the best candidate for life that is easily reachable. Yes, Titan<br>
> and Europa are good candidates as well but pretty much every month NASA<br>
> comes out with more and more evidence of life there and it has recently<br>
> changed from -- we found some fossils from long ago -- to -- oh shit --<br>
> looks like there was some snow melt in the past couple of months.<br>
><br>
> I don't think we are going to find any ETs but it's almost a certainity<br>
> that once humans arrive there, microbial life will be found -- not too<br>
> much to people like us but it's that sort of thing that will change the<br>
> world's perception about space exploration and will probably give it the<br>
> shot in the arm it needs.<br>
><br>
> I mean seriously -- when you have companies like DropBox and AirBnB<br>
> worth over a billion dollars why aren't we out there yet? It's not a<br>
> lack of money when one asteroid can produce more material than what has<br>
> been mined in all of human history to date.<br>
><br>
> It's a lack of promise.<br>
><br>
> - Ian<br>
><br>
> On 08:11 Tue 10 Jan , cole santos wrote:<br>
>> I think the easiest way to build a large habitat on a rocky planet is<br>
>> a tunneling device. If its autonomous it could build tunnels for years<br>
>> before anyone gets there. Then astronauts would simply inflate some<br>
>> high strength inflatables, like a bouncy castle and wala underground<br>
>> city (would be even nicer to fuse the walls with a high power CO2<br>
>> laser). If you drill the hole at an incline and go super deep, the<br>
>> bottom of the hole would have higher pressure than at the<br>
>> surface...Tunnelers are already common in mining operations. There is<br>
>> even a small town that was built in an old mine shaft system. A small<br>
>> mobile nuclear power plant could provide power for the drill and<br>
>> fusing laser.<br>
>><br>
>> But like I said in the past, why go to mars? What is there that you<br>
>> need? Real Estate, Dust, Gravity, Iron Oxide?<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:alexcg@gmail.com">alexcg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Interesting article about NASA's quest for a Mars habitat:<br>
>> > <a href="http://www.txchnologist.com/2012/be-it-ever-so-humble-the-challenges-of-building-a-house-on-mars" target="_blank">http://www.txchnologist.com/2012/be-it-ever-so-humble-the-challenges-of-building-a-house-on-mars</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Interesting points that could be good project fodder:<br>
>> > * NASA is investigating ways to build an electrostatic radiation<br>
>> > shield to protect astronauts<br>
>> > * NASA is also looking at ways to repurpose discarded supplies and<br>
>> > packaging to build up the habitat wall over time.<br>
>> > * building a Martian or Lunar habitat involves a lot of thought about<br>
>> > how to keep bad things out, including dirt<br>
>> > * standard of living for astronauts.<br>
>> > * "On a first trip to Mars it would be impossible to build from<br>
>> > materials found on the planet. Every component of the habitat will<br>
>> > either have to be preplaced or arrive with the astronauts" - what<br>
>> > methods could we use to change this? autonomous mining and<br>
>> > construction robots sent up before humans?<br>
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