[SpaceProgram] Challenges of Building A House on Mars
psytek at alphaonelabs.com
psytek at alphaonelabs.com
Wed Jan 11 05:31:03 CET 2012
On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:27 PM, Tim Miller <timmillertech at gmail.com> wrote:
I have been thinking of a way to collect iron oxide from the soil and use
solar sintering to create parts, tools, building parts.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:24 PM, cole santos <cksantos85 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Scientifically important but commercially irrelevant. hMicrobial life
> on Mars would excite no one after a few months. I mean people stopped
> watching the Apollo launches at the time because it became mundane.
> The average person doesn't care about space probably never will and
> for venture capital the risk is insane. Mars is a waste of time, short
> science and tourism.
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Ian Eyberg <ian at flirtrs.com> wrote:
> > Mars is the best candidate for life that is easily reachable. Yes, Titan
> > and Europa are good candidates as well but pretty much every month NASA
> > comes out with more and more evidence of life there and it has recently
> > changed from -- we found some fossils from long ago -- to -- oh shit --
> > looks like there was some snow melt in the past couple of months.
> > I don't think we are going to find any ETs but it's almost a certainity
> > that once humans arrive there, microbial life will be found -- not too
> > much to people like us but it's that sort of thing that will change the
> > world's perception about space exploration and will probably give it the
> > shot in the arm it needs.
> > I mean seriously -- when you have companies like DropBox and AirBnB
> > worth over a billion dollars why aren't we out there yet? It's not a
> > lack of money when one asteroid can produce more material than what has
> > been mined in all of human history to date.
> > It's a lack of promise.
> > - Ian
> > On 08:11 Tue 10 Jan , cole santos wrote:
> >> I think the easiest way to build a large habitat on a rocky planet is
> >> a tunneling device. If its autonomous it could build tunnels for years
> >> before anyone gets there. Then astronauts would simply inflate some
> >> high strength inflatables, like a bouncy castle and wala underground
> >> city (would be even nicer to fuse the walls with a high power CO2
> >> laser). If you drill the hole at an incline and go super deep, the
> >> bottom of the hole would have higher pressure than at the
> >> surface...Tunnelers are already common in mining operations. There is
> >> even a small town that was built in an old mine shaft system. A small
> >> mobile nuclear power plant could provide power for the drill and
> >> fusing laser.
> >> But like I said in the past, why go to mars? What is there that you
> >> need? Real Estate, Dust, Gravity, Iron Oxide?
> >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths
> >> <alexcg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Interesting article about NASA's quest for a Mars habitat:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Interesting points that could be good project fodder:
> >> > * NASA is investigating ways to build an electrostatic radiation
> >> > shield to protect astronauts
> >> > * NASA is also looking at ways to repurpose discarded supplies and
> >> > packaging to build up the habitat wall over time.
> >> > * building a Martian or Lunar habitat involves a lot of thought about
> >> > how to keep bad things out, including dirt
> >> > * standard of living for astronauts.
> >> > * "On a first trip to Mars it would be impossible to build from
> >> > materials found on the planet. Every component of the habitat will
> >> > either have to be preplaced or arrive with the astronauts" - what
> >> > methods could we use to change this? autonomous mining and
> >> > construction robots sent up before humans?
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