<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi to all,<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>OK below the email is the text of the proposal for the Food Hacking Base (fhb) budget for 29c3 and here is the link to the wiki version</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent;
 font-style: normal;"><span>https://events.ccc.de/congress/2012/wiki/FHB_Budget<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I hope to hear your comments and suggestions so we can come up with "a plan" </span><span>.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Sincerely from Seoul,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px;
 font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: bookman old style,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>FA<br></span></div><div> <br>PS Thanks for starting to sign in!<br><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;" id="internal-source-marker_0.5039737576285362">====Budget====</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span
 style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">I
 propose budget of around 500 EU for this whole event. Preferred option 
would be to receive donations in advance which we do not have to return,
 just one way and final. Second option would be to receive “returnable 
donation” which we would give back to the supporter at the end of the 
event. </span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">We
 should discuss kick starter options for both USA and Europe, what are 
the “agencies” which we could try to use, who would be taking care about
 that etc.</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">There
 should be at least one person which would be OK to receive money 
donations by paypal and/or bank transfers (Europe based I think).</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">We
 will have a donation box at Food Hacking Base assembly location so we 
will collect donations in this way, it worked well the last time.</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">I
 (Frantisek Apfelbeck) would like to ask to have clearly labelled 
donation box of my own on the place too, I need to cover at least part 
of my travel costs (around 800 EU in total), otherwise I will be in 
trouble. I hope you will be OK with that, I see this as a better option 
compared to “mixing it” with fhb donations. I am sure that there will be
 quite a bunch of people who will put money in both :-)</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">We
 should be clearing our balance each day so we know how we are doing. I 
would recommend to have it online probably Google spreadsheet or 
something else?</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">If
 we are cash positive at the end of the event, we should keep the cash 
with someone involved at fhb who is not me (Frantisek Apfelbeck - I am 
too volatile for that, on the road all the time) for the next event. We 
spend around 130 EU for 28c3 event and were left with extra 45 EU which 
are part of the budget for this event (so just 455 EU to go :-)).</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">We
 should also discuss what are we going to do with the ingredients which 
are going to be left over. We could redistribute them among ourselves or
 maybe give it to some hacker space, CCC or some charity?</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">So please comment and discuss, sincerely,</span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;"></span><br><span style="font-size:15px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;">FA</span><br><br><br><br><br></div><div>Frantisek
 Algoldor Apfelbeck<br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><br><div>http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</div><div><br><br></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br></div></div></body></html>