<p>Hi Frantisek,</p>
<p>Thank you for your answer and good luck with your master thesis!</p>
<p>I actually was concerned about milk kefir, as it's the one we cultivate (and this what we call "kefir" in Russia, water kefir is known under a different name and is not popular at all). Is what you said about water kefir apply to milk kefir too?</p>
<p>--<br>
Alexander Chemeris<br>
Sent from my Android device. Sorry for my brevity.</p>
<p><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 10, 2011 3:00 PM, "Frantisek Apfelbeck" <<a href="mailto:algoldor@yahoo.com">algoldor@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">
<div><span>Hi Alex and all!</span></div><div><span></span><span>You bet that the list is alive but I'm just finishing my master thesis (for the last few months grrrr :((() so I'm rather quiet.</span></div><div><br>
<span></span></div><div><span>I'll be posting soon concerning the Food Hacking Base presence it the 28c3 in Berlin at the end of December.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Concerning the water kefir. The culture is in theory "immortal". However I do recommend to feed it well, which would include addition of various minerals like magnesium, calcium, potassium etc. on regular basis, bit of sea salt should do I believe. Great source of various minerals and organic compounds are really dark rich sugars with lots of "molasses" in it. Based on my experience you do not have to do every brew with this type
of sugar which has a very specific strong flavor, once in a few weeks should be fine, the microbes should get bit stored for a while but I did not do too much reading on this aspect yet, so if someone can clarify this that would be cool. Making the drink in a black tea infusion has also very beneficial effect on the microbes in the culture, I've very goo experience with kombucha culture made in this way (compared to white and green teas, herbal infusions and just sugar solutions without any other ingredients). I also recommend to add some probiotic cultures from time to time, like a bit of yogurt, sourdough etc. to kind of hybridize the culture. However be careful with adding kombucha, it will start to make the cellulose matrix on the top very fast.<br>
</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div>I hope this info helped a bit, I'm going to dig out an article about water kefir which is popular but really nice.
<br><span></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Anyway I'll be in touch, I've come back to my thesis, the final version of introduction is due today.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Sincerely,</span></div>
<div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Frantisek</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>PS I'll be sending a news letter about my activities within the last half year, I'll post it here too because the Food hacking Base is one of the crucial projects done in this time.<br>
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