[foodhackingbase] preparations for CCC summer camp

Sun May 3 14:48:12 CEST 2015

Hi to all,
I've done bit of editing of the wiki the pre prap for the CCC camp this 
summer, food preparation section

https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Cccamp15:teamfood

Have a look on it when you can and edit as you like, lets see what we 
come up with. I've signed for morning shifts for the food team as a 
shift coordinator as at the events before, setting up preliminary the 
time to 4 hours shifts.

Talk to you soon,

Sincerely,

FAA

On 2015-04-29 20:24, Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck wrote:
> Hi Lotte and others,
> thanks for the hardwork, I'll chip some energy within next few days
> latest by the weekend, comment below and in your text as ###
> 
> Just shortly my opinion. I'm fine locating fhb close to the Milliways
> especially when Elmar mentioned the low noise levels during the days,
> that was my major worry. Concerning sharing infrastructure we have to
> really think about that well. I would suggest building
> experimental/preparation kitchen and workshop room separately as fhb
> and sharing them as we did before and as you summarized and further
> elaborated nicely here
> 
> https://milliways.info/pad/p/fbhccc2015 (is it OK to edit it directly
> there or shall we copy it somewhere?)
> 
> I'm not sure about the dining area and washing area, would tent to
> have it separately too because we have community/crowd of our own, two
> social areas may be handy. Also we are much smaller in the terms of
> people involved so keeping the identity which I  think is nice is
> rather on our part.
> 
> My thought so far was something around the lines of the workshop tent
> which Marcel suggested and bigger maybe 5x10 m rented tent with hard
> floors for kitchen and dining area (or 5x5 m for kitchen with hard
> floor and dining outside without hard floor should work too as at
> OHM2013).
> 
> Concerning sharing - I think it would be great to share some walk in
> cooler - either build or rented and some freezing space. That would be
> lovely, would have to be discussed - space, cost etc. Other stuff like
> bigger gas stoves, electric/gas barbecues would be great for sharing
> too, same goes for some special type of equipment like larger types of
> pans, oven, dehydrators or whatever maybe specific but sharable with
> good will. If we are next too each other than we can easily circulate
> it. Also after the dinner and for the night I assume that things will
> get socially mixed a lot also equipment wise and most likely we will
> be all parting around both places joining together.
> 
> Anyway these were the comments in summary suggesting - workshop area
> and experimental/preparation kitchen separate as fhb, dining area and
> washing area maybe separate but not sure, cooling and freezing
> facilities shared if possible, variety of equipment shared if
> possible.
> 
> Once more thanks, it is starting to take a shape bit by bit :-)
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Frantisek
> 
> On 2015-04-28 04:25, Cooking Roffa wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've been thinking a bit more about how to organise the FHB - taking
>> into account what Marcel and Frantisek wrote - and tried to work on
>> that a bit more.
>> The result you'll find here: https://milliways.info/pad/p/fbhccc2015
>> [4]. Please comment and edit as you see fit! If we can agree on this
>> I'd like to update the wiki to a setup that reflects this somewhere
>> next week - although I like the Milliways setup I used before I think
>> it is not really suitable for us.
> 
> ### went through that nice, can I edit and add directly in that pad?
> 
>> I also think I messed some stuff up on the wiki and i'd like to work
>> on that; is it possible that either a sysop can help me or i get sysop
>> privs? Who should i talk to?
> 
> ### Steffen should have the admin rights plus few others, maybe mwfc?
> 
>> Besides the main FHB framework there's some other practical things we
>> needed to discuss.
>> 
>> Location
>> As mentioned before I would like to suggest being close to Milliways -
>> for personal reasons but also because I think this would be highly
>> practical. Even if we decide to not share the kitchen I think having
>> another kitchen nearby might come in handy.
> 
> ### next to sounds good, sharing some stuff too would be for separate
> kitchens and workshop areas at least
> 
> I think no-one was really
>> opposing to this so I think it would be the way to go.
>> For the noise I asked mc.fly and he told me that Milliways has
>> workshops too and will in general not be noisy before 22:00 hours.
>> Sleeping next to the FHB might not be great if you like a quiet night
>> but i expect most parts of the camp to be quite noisy during the
>> night. The FHB people who do not like that can of course choose more
>> quiet parts of the camp to sleep. Parents with kids might consider
>> choosing a sleeping place in the family village.
> 
> ### Who wants to sleep well should locate him/herself in the areas of
> camp designed for that, agreed at least on my side.
> 
>> Sharing parts of the kitchen areas
>> When it comes to possibilites for sharing the kitchen areas or kitchen
>> equipment: I would like to suggest discuss that in more detail between
>> us and Milliways, say set up an IRC meeting between FHB and Milliways
>> to see what would be the way to go.
> 
> ### OK should we try to talk about that this weekend, maybe Saturday
> morning or afternoon European time? (so I'm not in bed here in Korea?
> :-) + 7 hours more or less)
> 
>> Logo
>> Daan has sent me the logo; I think it's quite nice but needs some work
>> done. It is o/c very practical to have a black and white logo, but I
>> think it would be nice to have a coloured version besides that? Maybe
>> have a green (fluorescent) flask? Who would be the person to ask that?
>> I would also like to put up the logo on our wiki :-)
> 
> ### I'll try to send you the colour version of the original logo from
> lurwah, blue flask and black background I think, give me a bit of time
> please a I hope I succeed.
> 
>> Shifts
>> As to the shifts for 'the person to talk to', I think we should look
>> at what would be reasonable. The person to talk to is explained in
>> extend down at the proposal. I think 4 or 6 hours as Frantisek
>> suggested would be ok. I'm not sure if we should devide every day in
>> the same way (in the sense that you either have the morning, afternoon
>> or evening shift every day) but maybe we can discuss that a bit
>> further? Who else would be in for being 'the person to talk to'
>> besides me and Frantisek?
> 
> ### It would be nice to have few volunteers at least for one shift so
> it is not just me and Lotte, people who are with us longer should
> consider it privilege :-)
> 
>> Please let me know what you think!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Lotte
> 
> ### Did my bit of homework, thanks for all the work!
> 
> ### Sincerely,
> 
> ### FAA
> 
>> 2015-04-26 13:54 GMT+02:00 Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>> <algoldor at foodhackingbase.org>:
>> 
>>> Hi to all,
>>> I think it would be nice to move a bit forward in the next few days
>>> with the preparations for the CCC camp this summer before we hit the
>>> May at the end of the next week so we get in the gear. The wiki for
>>> the preps is here so enjoy your contributions
>>> 
>>> https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015 [1]
>>> 
>>> I was thinking about signing for the morning food shift and person
>>> to talk to for the afternoon, maybe four hours shifts would be a
>>> good idea, or six?
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> FAA
>>> 
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>> 
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>> [4] https://milliways.info/pad/p/fbhccc2015
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