<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi there,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I've updated the table of parts and links where to buy them based on previous Arnd's suggestions</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Projects:Experimental_Incubator/ei_prototype_designing<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>it is not complete and some things are in excess, I tried to put the parts which I understand that we really need at the top of the list, take it as a bit of the homework done. I'm not too sure now what to add or take away, my electronic skills are strained to the limit :-)</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Any suggestions would be appreciated, if we could come up with list of thing to order after this weekend, I would do. I would like to order one or two sets and send it to someone who would be OK to test them. I can be one of them but not only me please!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>Sincerely,<br></span></div><div> </div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div><div><br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><div><br></div><div>http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</div><div><br><br></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:58 PM, Arnd <contact@sociallife.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container">On 11/13/2013 12:19 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck wrote:<br clear="none">> Hi Arnd,<br clear="none">Hi Frantisek,<br clear="none">> I just wonder. If you
recommend me what I'm suppose to get for the<br clear="none">> prototype, do you thing that ordering first one or two sets and checking<br clear="none">> that out if it fits/works would be a good idea?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The set is based on exactly the things I wrote on the wiki so far and is <br clear="none">the same as the stuff I gave you when you were here in amsterdam.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The prototype-shield + headers + connectors that you got from me are <br clear="none">part of it. All you need to order are the temperature-probes, an <br clear="none">LCD-shield and any arduino.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I will, however, create a nice overview of the parts and how they go <br clear="none">together in a mail, soon.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The system works, but it is lacking the software to control the LCD and <br clear="none">read the probes; though they do work with test-software, it doesnt do <br
clear="none">anything useful yet. That's where 'the rest of you' come in.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> If so, would be you have<br clear="none">> time to check it out or shall I ask Erwin or someone else? My idea is<br clear="none">> that based on the list which I hope to get from you or someone else I<br clear="none">> would order the parts to the address of whoever is OK to test it and if<br clear="none">> it all works I would order more of it.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">If you could have Erwin look at the wiki-page that I mailed last time <br clear="none">and provide comments; that'd be perfect.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Most of the stuff listed there also has an URL where it has been <br clear="none">ordered. The arduino you can get anywhere you want, the <br clear="none">connectors/resistors/etc are 'the usual stuff you get from an <br clear="none">electronics-store, anywhere' as mail-order will
just make it expensive.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Please let me know how do you see it. I do not want to waste too much<br clear="none">> money (like for example getting arduino boards if the chip is enough) on<br clear="none">> the other hand I would rather spend bit extra knowing that there will be<br clear="none">> minimum of issues to start with and it is more "user friendly".<br clear="none">><br clear="none">The reason you want to use an arduino for the *PROTOTYPE* is because it <br clear="none">comes with handy ways to program it (aka: serial port over USB, etc) as <br clear="none">well as the Arduino programming-environment to easily write software. <br clear="none">Once you're done with the *PROTOTYPE*, you re-design the system to all <br clear="none">fit on one custom-made PCB. But only when you know which features, pins, <br clear="none">headers, connectors, etc,
you will need in your design. Perhaps you will <br clear="none">decide you want one of the temp-probes to be wireless (for measuring <br clear="none">outside temperature to know if you need to use Peltier or if you can <br clear="none">just use a fan); and then you need to add a 433Mhz module or something. <br clear="none">That is easy in an arduino-based *PROTOTYPE*, but not so easy to <br clear="none">add/change once you've made a custom-made PCB.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The final product should not contain an arduino inside; just a <br clear="none">microcontroller of the same type/series that's on the Arduino-boards.<br clear="none">An arduino-clone is fine too; i am sure there's some arduinoclones on <br clear="none">Dx.com that cost less than 17 euro, by now.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">> I hope to hear from you soon,<br clear="none">><br clear="none">I will work on producing a good overview of what I think is
'the way to <br clear="none">go', I will send it to you for review and if you would like to have for <br clear="none">example Erwin also look at it, that'd be great.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Sincerely,<br clear="none">> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> PS By the way we are starting to plan a tour around Europe under the<br clear="none">> food hacking base logo promoting fermentations giving workshops,<br clear="none">> presentations, building incubators (hopefully), starting after 30c3 and<br clear="none">> I wonder if TehcInc would be interested, I would :-). Hack42 is on the<br clear="none">> list already ...<br clear="none">><br clear="none">Of course we're interested! I'll make sure there'll be a 'caretaker' for <br clear="none">the stuff produced this time, too ;)<br clear="none">We'll probably also have a clean-room for it, too!<div class="yqt3750874926"
id="yqtfd38132"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none"> Arnd<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org/" target="_blank">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>