<div dir="ltr">Hi there,<br>I'm bit tired today so apologies for short reply. To Matt, do you know Three Stone Hearth kitchen in Berkeley? http://www.threestonehearth.com/ If you are bit busy these days to start some experiment of your own you could have a look there, they do a lots of probiotics, I can get you in touch but it is not really necessary they are very community friendly. To Nathan, well fresh raw milk and especially the top is something what I was highly enjoying when volunteering on organic farms in California and at Three Stone Hearth kitchen especially even when I do not drink fresh milk usually - I prefer fermented versions, kefir is my best.<br> <br>Concerning the food hacking etc. I think that there can be quite a lot of done with minimum of resources, getting more through the "ants' work" as we say in Czech, a little by little. I plan to start for example to grow our Food Hacking Base "stickers" or rather logo based on the kombucha culture and later on probably laser "cutting/printing" on this microcellulose matrix and sharing it within next "sticker exchange" with variety of hackerspaces latest at 30c3. Hopefully some other hackerspaces will try this process too. It is a small experiment but I think a nice one because it is simple, it is probiotic and in a way it is "3D growing" which is something bit different than you read on the discusses every day. Personally I really believe that majority of our materials/items will be sooner or later grown anyway ...<br><br>Well that was my quick post just in reply hope to hear more ideas soon! By the way is anyone coming to 30c3 in Germany in December this year?<br><br>Sincerely from Jeju, South Korea,<br><br>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck<br><br>On Friday, October 11, 2013 9:23:05 PM UTC+9, Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Hi to all,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal">I'm on the list for some time waiting a bit in vain for some more food and beverage focused conversations. I would like to ask if people who are into this field could get in touch with me. I'm involved in
Food Hacking Base (fhb) project which is promoting the fusion of the ancient knowledge of food and beverage making with today's science and technology and spreading it within (and out) the hacker community. Next big event after OHM 2013 where we were
running the experimental kitchen and workshop place is 30c3 (Computer Chaos Club conference) - 30th anniversary in Hamburg at the end of this December. We plan to call for participation within next two weeks or so, aiming for another crowd sourcing campaign etc. This time we consider to build a separate food&beverage&bio experimental lab which would be dedicated not really to food and beverage preparation, rather testing and really playing. We still want to run the experimental kitchen and workshop area as on the events before. We are now going through the things and what we do really depends on who gets involved, as usually.</div><div></div><div> </div><div>Anyway if you are into these topics, please get in touch either with me or on our discuss, for more info please check our OHM
2013 wiki</div><div><br></div><div><a rel="nofollow" href="https://ohm2013.org/wiki/Village:Food_Hacking_Base" target="_blank">https://ohm2013.org/wiki/<wbr>Village:Food_Hacking_Base</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>now we are starting to build up our media wiki</div><div><br></div><div><a rel="nofollow" href="https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Main_Page" target="_blank">https://foodhackingbase.org/<wbr>wiki/Main_Page</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I hope to talk to you soon, in one or two weeks you will see here the call for participation anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div><br></div><div>FAA</div><div><br></div><div>PS Personally I'm into food&beverage fermentations (mostly non alcoholic, probiotic). By the way I have heard from Sandor Katz (from his recent blog post) that there are people involved in DIY Bio based in Copenhagen who are experimentally monitoring the development of the microbial "flora and fauna" of sauerkraut. Also I have been told by Mitch Altman that there is a group in Paris who is
experimenting with the kombucha grown microcellulose biofilms, does anyone know them? I'm now starting to grow our Food Hacking Base 30c3 batches so a bit of info would be handy :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck</div><div><br><br></div><div>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org" target="_blank">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.<wbr>org</a></div><div><br><br></div><div>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>