<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><span>Answers in the text, many thanks for info! By the way Arjen, do you want to send the copy to the main discuss too, these are quite news/handy info you know?</span></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> </div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck<br><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><br><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size:
10pt;">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><br></div><div><font size="2">"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi</font><br><br> <div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;"> <div dir="ltr" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Arjen Kamphuis <arjen@gendo.ch><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Frantisek Apfelbeck <algoldor@yahoo.com>; foodhacking@lists.hackerspaces.org; discussion@ohm2013.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:35 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Discussion]
cold room build up project<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><font size="3">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----</font><br><font size="3">Hash: SHA1</font><br><br><font size="3">On 06/10/2013 11:46 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck wrote:</font><br><font size="3">> Hi to all, Well I think that the hexayurt option is feasible,</font><br><font size="3">> however many thanks for the wide variety of ideas :-)</font><br><font size="3">> </font><br><font size="3">> I have got more info on hexayurt and especially insulation</font><br><font size="3">> material from a friend who is based in Amsterdam, edited excerpt is</font><br><font size="3">> below.</font><br><br><font size="3">The inventor of the hexayurt will be joining us at OHM and is</font><br><font size="3">available to advise us. So we'll have all the info and experience we need.</font><br><br><font size="3">>> Amazing! That will be the answer than I think. I wonder
how many hexayurts will be build up on the event, is there a special project on the topic? The cold room hexayurt could join it if that was the case ...</font><br><br><font size="3">In the Netherlands 20-40 cm is a lot but in Germany is it standard for</font><br><font size="3">zero-energy housing (passiv standard). We use multiplex (24 mm)</font><br><font size="3">woodpanels as structural material encasing the insulation on both</font><br><font size="3">sides. We could possibly add a tarp to keep direct sunlight off the</font><br><font size="3">roof if the cost of such can be kept low.</font><br><br><font size="3">>> Hmm than the question is how to get it to OHM from Germany, may be difficult or the Dutch standard than ...</font><br><br><font size="3">Once the building and the mass inside it is cooled down the energy</font><br><font size="3">requirements for keeping it cool should be very modest provided the</font><br><font size="3">door is kept
closed as much as possible. We could possibly add a few</font><br><font size="3">barrels of water to act as mass, this will further help stabilise the</font><br><font size="3">internal termp of the room (after the initial effort of cooling it</font><br><font size="3">down to 5c).</font><br><br><font size="3">>> I think I will try to ask the orga to lend us some cooled </font>crates<font size="3"> of club matte to cool the place down (combined with our brews) for a day or so, solely for "scientific purposes of course ... we will see how addicted ahh well "attached" I mean they are ...</font><br><br><font size="3">We can order a daily delivery of dry-ice to assist the airco. I have a</font><br><font size="3">mobile airco in Amsterdam that I'll bring. It can run the two days</font><br><font size="3">before OHM. Need it for a speaker with a medical condition during OHM.</font><br><font size="3">So we need one more
airco.</font><br><br>>> That would be great, I'm asking around the Netherlands for airco too, we will see what can be found. Used ones should be below 300 eu from what I have been told.<br><br>>> Many thanks,</div><div class="y_msg_container"><br></div><div class="y_msg_container">>> Sincerely FAA</div><div class="y_msg_container"><br><font size="3">- -- </font><br><font size="3">Met vriendelijke groet/With kind regards,</font><br><font size="3">Arjen Kamphuis</font><br><font size="3">Gendo B.V.</font><br><br><br><br><font size="3">Main: +31 20 891 0330</font><br><font size="3">mail: </font><a ymailto="mailto:arjen@gendo.ch" href="mailto:arjen@gendo.ch" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">arjen@gendo.ch</a><br><br><font size="3">gendo.ch (website)</font><br><font size="3">gendo.nl/blog/arjen (Dutch blog)</font><br><font
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