<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">Hi to all,</div><div><font size="2">Well I think that the hexayurt option is feasible, however many thanks for the wide variety of ideas :-)</font></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I have got more info on hexayurt and especially insulation material from a friend who is based in Amsterdam, edited excerpt is below.</div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size:
13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">>>>At BurningMan </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent;">they made them out of insulation-panels that are sold at</span><span style="background-color: transparent;"><font size="2"> </font></span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">DIY-stores for putting in between the hollow walls typically used in </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">construction of houses in america. </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">The same
panels exist here in .nl too; but are used to insulate below a </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">roof. </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">They are definately NOT 15CM thick... let alone 20CM (that's insanely </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">thick; not even commercial cooling-cells get made with styrofoam that </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">thick!.. In fact; they're made with these types of insulation-panels ;)</span><br style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><br style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">>> The
'isolatie-plaat' they used also at Burningman have a cover of </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">plastic/something on either side that protects the brittle inside </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">(polyurethane) from being damaged by impacts, etc. It ALSO makes it very </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">easy to use airconditioner-tape (thin silver tape used to seal seams in </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">airco-ducts) to put all the stuff together. </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">I am still looking for prices...</span><br style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><br
style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">>> On the 'thick styrofoam' side of things, (EPS, tempex), i can see stuff </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">of up to 140mm here on Marktplaats.. sheet of up to 2000mmx1200mm at </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 16px;">E7.52 excluding tax.</span><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"></div><div><font size="2">So now I wonder what model/size of hexayurt would cover 10 square meters of usable floor space, how much and
what type of material it would need, ideas about costs would be great. I will try to do bit of studying today but it would be definitively good to hear advice or/and have around someone who actually did build hexayurt which is not my case ... </font></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div><font size="2">Still looking for the air-condition unit and someone to "safely hack it" so it cools down to 4-6C for the OHM event.</font></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">Sincerely,</div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">FAA</div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style',
'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck<br><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker</div><br><br><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org</div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><br></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;">"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi<br><br> <div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2"
face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Arjen Kamphuis <arjen@gendo.ch><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> discussion@ohm2013.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:54 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Discussion] cold room build up project<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Are we building a cold room or a bikeshed here ;-)<br><br>A hexayurt build with 20-40cm insulation material and cooled with<br>airco's and dry ice will be less complex, not require long waterpipes,<br>pumps and the dumping of large volumes cooling water. So few moving<br>parts and no water to leak into whatever is actually is that we want to<br>store in the coldroom.<br><br>But maybe I'm missing something...<br><br><br>On 06/10/2013 09:58 PM, Walter van Holst wrote:<br>> On
106//13 9:23 PM, Remco Post wrote:<br>>> On 10 jun. 2013, at 20:00, Axol Otleon <<a ymailto="mailto:axol.otleon@me.com" href="mailto:axol.otleon@me.com">axol.otleon@me.com</a>><br>>> wrote:<br>>>>> Plenty of water nearby. You could waterproof a sea container <br>>>>> and dump it in there, just would need a top hatch and a<br>>>>> ladder. And something like a tarp to keep it out of direct<br>>>>> sunlight.<br>>> <br>>> If the water is deep enough* , just get it from the bottom of<br>>> the lake, use wind-power and/or solar power to drive the pump(s)<br>>> and use the water that way.... you can even dump the warm water<br>>> back in the lake... Or is that too much well established?<br>>> <br>>> <a href="http://www.geestmerambacht.nl/documents/recreatienoordholland/doc/geestmerambacht_dieptekaart_vissen.pdf"
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