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Great. Now I'm singing Johnny Mercer/Bing Crosby... "Accentuate the
positives...Eliminate the negatives..."<br>
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Yes, I agree that we could waste a lot of time arguing the merits of
the for-profit/non-profit deal, and we could really get into a fight
about taking monies that could help to feed families, etc. That's
just one step away from talking politics, and I don't debate
politics via mailing lists. I do it the manly way, over an alcoholic
beverage, and with a smile on my face. Let's face it, there are
merits and faults to all of the different systems, and they don't
always fit the curve based on where they are located, the members
that are there, and the talent that they bring. The end result is
that we have started, or are starting these spaces to give
like-minded people a place to share, and to pass on skillz to those
that want to learn. Let's not lose sight of that please. I didn't
start mine to make a profit, and I damn sure didn't start it to get
rid of my paycheck. I started it to spend time with my friends, make
new ones, and create some cool toys/applications/etc. That's what
I'll do until it's time NOT to do it anymore. :)<br>
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-Sky<br>
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On 10/29/2010 11:04 AM, Brain Tank wrote:
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Brain Tank</b> <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:thebraintank@gmail.com">thebraintank@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Finance] Startup Costs<br>
To: "Christopher J. Pilkington" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cjp@0x1.net">cjp@0x1.net</a>><br>
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<div>Dodge, parry, thrust.<br>
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<div>You made your point toward the negatives. I made mine using
your logic. Let's get back to innovating and accentuating the
positives shall we?<br>
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<div>-David Johnson</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:22 AM,
Christopher J. Pilkington <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cjp@0x1.net"
target="_blank">cjp@0x1.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:02:58AM -0400, Brain
Tank wrote:<br>
> If this works we've even gone a step further, WE
HAVE NOT TAKEN MONEY AWAY FROM<br>
> NON-PROFITS. We are generating new income instead
while doing non-profit type<br>
> things for the community. Tinkering is good but
whatever money a Hackerspace<br>
> gets donated to them for a tool or event could
just as easily have gone to help<br>
> people feed their families.<br>
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This is fearmongering. You're making the false
assumption that<br>
donations to a non-profit hackerspace are reallocations
of<br>
donations to other non-profits.<br>
<br>
Furthermore, I'd argue that if I get members of the
community<br>
interested in technology, and learning the basics
through the<br>
classes we offer, I'm putting them in a better position
to be<br>
employable (if not in the short term, in the long term),
which<br>
does indeed help people feed their families.<br>
<br>
Again, I brought up the difference between a hackerspace
and a<br>
for-profit technology workshop because the economics are
quite<br>
different, and this list is centered on the finances of<br>
hackerspaces. I did not mean to start a holy war on the
merits<br>
of hackerspaces vs. for-profit workshops.<br>
<br>
-cjp<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://sig315.org"
target="_blank">sig315.org</a><br>
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