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    <p>Hi Dear Hellekin,</p>
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            class="">First of all, I would like to make it clear that I
            agree to exclusively fight against ideas and not against
            people.</span><br>
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          <span title="" class="">Now think of the transformations that
            began to happen with the network sharing of images obtained
            by the cameras of cell phones </span></span><span
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            class=""><span class="tlid-translation translation"
              lang="en"><span title="" class="">available to people.</span></span></span><br>
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            And now think about the possible changes when ordinary
            people have instruments for chemical analysis of water
            quality, available on their hands.</span> <span title="">And
            be able to share this information in the same way we share
            images?</span></span><span
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        <span class="tlid-translation translation" lang="en"><span
            title="" class="">I want to draw attention to the importance
            of raising the level of "risk perception" of ordinary*
            people to the water theme.</span><br>
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            Because I believe that an increase in the "perception of
            risk" about water security can motivate behavioral changes.</span><br>
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            *By ordinary people I mean people without technical and
            scientific knowledge about water.<br>
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            Best Regards,<br>
            Markos<br>
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            <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Assunto:
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            <td>Re: [hackerspaces] Hacking, making, learning?</td>
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            <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Data: </th>
            <td>Tue, 22 Sep 2020 08:30:59 +0200</td>
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            <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">De: </th>
            <td>hellekin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hellekin@dyne.org"><hellekin@dyne.org></a></td>
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            <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Para: </th>
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      <pre>Why the quotes in "for all"? As the global capitalist society continues,
we do not have enough drinkable water for all humans, let alone the rest
of the living. We've seen countless times how much water is used by
extractivist companies to remove metals or hydrocarbons from the ground,
and how these processes pollute water beyond sanity. As they do it with
impunity, I guess hackers would be able to stop them in their tracks by
extracting compromising information from them, or killing their
machines. At some point, DIY is not enough: you can certainly help build
water filters and purifiers from citizen science, but you cannot simply
stop the harm made to rivers, cultures who protect them, and stop the
massive fabrication of metal-based and oil-based products, including
vehicles and computers. It's war that makes capitalism possible, maybe
it's time to wage war on capitalism.

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hk

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