<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px">Hello,<br><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500879253327_20552">I think that one of the expressions which is being used is "associated membership". You are recognized supporter of the place, you are welcome to come when some "key holders" are in the space but you do not have key holder status by itself and also hackerspace from hackerspace you do not have full member rights - blocking decisions etc. It feels like more support support status - someone who would like to belong to some community at least "virtually" have a chance and he or she contributes with energy, time and usually also financially to the community.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500879253327_20502"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500879253327_20503">Sincerely from Normandie,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500879253327_20550"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500879253327_20551">Frantisek</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500879253327_10496"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500879253327_10475" class="signature">Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck<br><br>biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker <br><br>http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org <br><br>"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." <br><br>Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, July 24, 2017 7:09 AM, Tarek Ahmed <tarek.alsabagh@gmail.com> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8589186809"><div><div><div>I agree with Arclight and I think our membership model at Cairo Hackerspace can categorize these members, if that is what you are looking for. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>At the Cairo Hackerspace we made three memberships that anyone can choose from or join all three. One of these memberships could fit the people you are talking about. Basically anyone who pays money, whether its a donation or paying for any of our non profit services, physical or virtual, is a member X. (We don't call them "X members" but use the X as a placeholder for whatever category name you choose for this type of membership.</div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Keys are only handed over to trusted people. Another solution is that members can volunteer to open for other members without keys at specific times, you can read about it in the the link below. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>You can read a summary of our model. Feel free to ask questions, suggest changes or give other opinions. </div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.cairohackerspace.org/post/159642257252/cmm">http://www.cairohackerspace.org/post/159642257252/cmm</a><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Tarek</div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8589186809yqt3417485411" id="yiv8589186809yqt50180"><div class="yiv8589186809gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8589186809gmail_quote">On Jul 23, 2017 5:02 PM, "Pavel Ruzicka" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ruza@ruza.eu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ruza@ruza.eu">ruza@ruza.eu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8589186809quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I also agree with that. Handing out keys of our hackerspace to an<br clear="none">
unknown person is absolutely not acceptable.<br clear="none">
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My question was if any hackerspace found a model of a membership without<br clear="none">
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ruza<br clear="none">
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On 07/23/2017 10:56 PM, Joshua Pritt wrote:<br clear="none">
> I agree with Arclight. You can accept donations from anyone and add<br clear="none">
> them to the mailing list, give them access to the wiki, etc. just not a<br clear="none">
> key to the place. You gotta hang out a few times to make sure we can<br clear="none">
> all be excellent to each other.<br clear="none">
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> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Arclight <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:arclight@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:arclight@gmail.com">arclight@gmail.com</a><br clear="none">
</div><div class="yiv8589186809quoted-text">> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:arclight@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:arclight@gmail.com">arclight@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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> It's fairly straightforward: You can accept members from anywhere.<br clear="none">
> They can support you from Antarctica with donations if they want and<br clear="none">
> be on the mailing list/etc.<br clear="none">
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> Key holder status is different. We treat our space like a home. You<br clear="none">
> have to physically be here and get to know us before we decide if we<br clear="none">
> would give you a key to our home.<br clear="none">
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> Arclight<br clear="none">
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> On Jul 23, 2017 1:37 PM, "Pavel Ruzicka" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ruza@ruza.eu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ruza@ruza.eu">ruza@ruza.eu</a><br clear="none">
</div><div class="yiv8589186809quoted-text">> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ruza@ruza.eu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ruza@ruza.eu">ruza@ruza.eu</a>>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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> Hello.<br clear="none">
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> Does any hackerspace accept something like remote membership?<br clear="none">
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> In our hackespace we have a rule that anybody who wants to<br clear="none">
> become a full<br clear="none">
> member (with all the rights like free access to a hackerspace)<br clear="none">
> has to<br clear="none">
> visit us personally few times to check compatibility between<br clear="none">
> existing<br clear="none">
> member community a and an applicant. If everything goes OK an<br clear="none">
> applicant<br clear="none">
> is accepted.<br clear="none">
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> We are receiving membership requests from people all over the<br clear="none">
> globe we<br clear="none">
> have never seen and probably will never see.<br clear="none">
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> How do you handle such request? Do you have any special type of<br clear="none">
> membership for them?<br clear="none">
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> ruza<br clear="none">
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