<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div><br></div><div>At the Center of Gravity we use Seltzer with quite a few add ons to handle badges, access control, and billing. </div><div><br>The On Sep 10, 2016, at 07:45, Arthur Guy <<a href="mailto:arthur@arthurguy.co.uk">arthur@arthurguy.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I built a system for the Brighton (England) Makerspace a few years back. Its very specific to us but it has a good feature set and is forkable.<div><a href="https://github.com/ArthurGuy/BBMembershipSystem/">https://github.com/ArthurGuy/BBMembershipSystem/</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br>Thanks,<br>Arthur<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 September 2016 at 11:34, Altin Ukshini <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:altin.ukshini@gmail.com" target="_blank">altin.ukshini@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I've started one here: <a href="https://github.com/altinukshini/hackerspacecrm" target="_blank">https://github.com/<wbr>altinukshini/hackerspacecrm</a><br>
But it'll take some time to be useful. I'll be working on it for another year for sure as it's also a school project and we need for Prishtina Hackerspace too (we use Seltzer)</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers,<br>
Altin</p>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 10, 2016 4:30 AM, "Edward L Platt" <<a href="mailto:ed@elplatt.com" target="_blank">ed@elplatt.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">It's worth mentioning that several of us worked on developing a free/open-source system to do this called Seltzer, with mixed success. It never made it to 1.0, but has been successfully used at a number of spaces. The project is currently maintenance-only, but I do plan to devote more effort to decentralized free/open software for organizing communities at some point.<div><br></div><div>It's a hard problem, but mostly for non-technical reasons. Some challenges we found that might not be obvious:</div><div><br></div><div>1. It's not a sexy topic, so it's hard to attract volunteers, and it's hard to raise money.</div><div><br></div><div>2. On a related note, member management systems are long-term projects, which means whatever stack you build the technology on, it will spend most of it's life cycle being "old, boring" technology.</div><div><br></div><div>3. Everyone does things differently. One approach is to build a tool that can be configured to do anything (CiviCRM is a good example) but the downside is that it gets very complicated and difficult to use. Another approach is to make a lightweight core that can be extended (we tried this with Seltzer).</div><div><br></div><div>4. It's difficult to build collaborations across spaces. Different spaces stumble across or create their own solutions, which makes pooling resources difficult.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy hacking,</div><div>Ed</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Derek H <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dh405okc@gmail.com" target="_blank">dh405okc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">How does one request an invite to that slack?</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Matthew "mirage335" Hines <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spamfreemirage335@gmail.com" target="_blank">spamfreemirage335@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>National Organization of Makers is the name increasingly adopted
by the large group of Makerspace leaders continuing to collaborate
following the recent White House sponsored meeting, as well as a
possible future conference with a similar agenda.<br>
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Pritt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ramgarden@gmail.com" target="_blank">ramgarden@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Melbourne Makerspace has been using the open
source Seltzer (built at another hackerspace!)
specifically for running 'spaces with little to no
training and volunteer time.
<div>I am currently trying to build a member photo module
that lets other members pull up the photos of a selected
member since we have so many members now it's hard to
remember their names!</div>
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<div>I wrote some PHP that queries the Seltzer database
that is called from a Python script I wrote that runs on
a raspberry Pi with an RFID scanner we use for our front
door lock.</div>
<div>It's been working great for over a year now! </div>
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<div><a href="https://wiki.melbournemakerspace.org/projects/RFIDDoorLock" target="_blank">https://wiki.melbournemakerspa<wbr>ce.org/projects/RFIDDoorLock</a><br>
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<p>You may wish to request an invite to the
National Organization of Makers slack channel.
This has been recognized as a unsolved problem
in need of dedicated technology. An active
development effort is underway to begin an
extensive Odoo based platform without lock-in.<br>
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<div>It's been a little while since we
talked about this, and I wonder if new
information or tools are available.</div>
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<div>What are people using to manage
their members, payments, equipment
authorizations, events and signups,
donations, etc?</div>
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<div>We've been using WildApricot for
the past few years. It does many
things, but all of them are a little
lacking. We have a bunch of
work-arounds and custom tools built
around their API's to make it easier
for our administrators, but it's
become a bit cumbersome to maintain,
and the price keeps going up.</div>
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<div>Looking for suggestions!</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><b>Dominic Canare</b>
<div>Immediate Past President,
MakeICT</div>
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