<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I can’t agree more with getting some type of automation up. It’s a game changer! it’s easy to track 10 - 20 people. But when you get above the 30 mark it gets difficult fast!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">HackPGH is working with Sector67 to implement some of their amazing automation scripts/techniques with our space. In the end, we’ll have Member Management, Door and Tool access control, as well as member managed events/calendar and tool and membership billing. Everything runs off of Wordpress and WooCommerce.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There was a great message thread that happened a few months ago that describes all of the different automation tools that different spaces use. It’s a long read but very informative.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 19, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Robert Davidson <<a href="mailto:robert@dallasmakerspace.org" class="">robert@dallasmakerspace.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dallas Makerspace has 1,300 members and we have no full time staff and zero employees. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We do have a porter that cleans 8 hours a day for 3 days a week. (We found it was cheaper to have someone 8 hours than occasional weekly cleanings) (We pay a company for this service so no contractor/employee status)</div><div class="">We are transitioning over to a bookkeeper/accounting firm now to handle documentation for our books. (Paid Service)</div><div class="">We use a company called parks pantry that provide kitchen services (Think gas station food and drinks with a kiosk to pay)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One of the reasons I believe we have been able to grow as large as we have without paid support is automation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Automate everything that is possible:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Member Management</div><div class="">Access Control</div><div class="">Calendar</div><div class="">Billing</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On OSHA I have heard it said under 10 employees and depending on your classification there are partial exemptions, I would call the inspector and just ask.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hope that helps.</div><div class=""><br class="">Robert Davidson</div><div class="">Dallas Makerspace</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Chad Elish <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:chad@hackpittsburgh.org" target="_blank" class="">chad@hackpittsburgh.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">I agree with Pete… As soon as you add Paid Employees, it changes the business (and culture) significantly.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">HackPGH has a policy that we charge $30/mo and require a minimum 3 hours of volunteer time per month… Wether that is working on a group shop project or cleaning the space, our members are required to help out.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rather then actively track the time because that would be a logistical nightmare, we work on the honor system. The first rule of our shop is ‘Don’t be a Dick’ (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Not-Be-Dick-Etiquette/dp/1936976021/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471620300&sr=8-1&keywords=how+not+to+be+a+dick" target="_blank" class="">Heres a great book</a>) or for the others, ‘Be excellent to each other’. If we see people not giving back to the community, we call them out. If it continues, we put them on probation, and in extreme cases ask them to leave.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Doing it this way, we see a stronger community develop, friendships made and the shop stays clean.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="">On Aug 19, 2016, at 10:59 AM, webmind <<a href="mailto:webmind@puscii.nl" target="_blank" class="">webmind@puscii.nl</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5">On 19/08/16 12:41, Bill Shaw wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">As Tampa Hackerspace approaches 100 members, we're starting to look<br class="">forward for the best ways to handle growth and scaling without driving<br class="">ourselves crazy. One thing we're considering is whether it makes sense<br class="">to have someone on payroll to take care of some basic things.<br class=""><br class="">For the more established and larger spaces out there, I'm curious how<br class="">many members you had when you added your first paid staff. What was your<br class="">overall budget at the time? Were they part time or full time? What<br class="">responsibilities did they have?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Technologia Incognita (one of the hackerspaces in Amsterdam) has about<br class="">100 members, never had paid staff. We have considered paying someone to<br class="">clean, but a majority of people was against. I think we have paid<br class="">someone once to clean the windows.<br class=""><br class="">Personally, to me hackerspaces are community projects where you run a<br class="">space as a community. Not some rich-kids playground who are afraid of a<br class="">bit of dirty work once in a while. That's what I think about when I<br class="">think of paid staff.<br class=""><br class="">w.<br class=""><br class=""></div></div><span class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">Discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank" class="">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br class=""></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">
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