<div dir="ltr">if you pay your teachers for their time above a certain amount you are required by law to file a 1099. if your teachers are teaching for your organization and you intend to protect them with the corporate veil... this is how you do that.<div><br></div><div>class attendees pay your org for the class the org offers. </div><div>the teacher gets paid by you.</div><div><br></div><div>if you are just a room for some teacher to use... you are offloading all the liability onto the teacher, while also assuming all the liability you already had.</div><div><br></div><div>at least that's my understanding of it.</div><div><br></div><div>-Matt</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Pete Prodoehl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raster@gmail.com" target="_blank">raster@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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There are no 1099s involved. We are a 501(c)3 with no employees,
completely volunteer run. If you teach a class you can choose to
charge for it, and then encouraged to donate to the space, but it is
not required. (We use donations to cover equipment maintenance and
consumables.) <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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Pete</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I can't imagine this is really a huge issue for
most classes. Waivers help. Binding arbitration for the lulz.
But I am pretty sure that if you are filing 1099s for your
teachers there is a corporate veil in place, so they shouldn't
be personally liable... of course such a situation would be a
huge hassle and likely cost some cash for personal counsel, if
something truly terrible did occur.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Pete
Prodoehl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raster@gmail.com" target="_blank">raster@gmail.com</a>></span>
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Because my space sometimes has gloom and doom people,
someone brought up the idea that if you charge for a
class, you could be held responsible if someone in the
class gets injured. This would be different than if you
did *not* charge for a class because there is no (or
less?) expectation of responsibility if you are not
charging for your services/expertise.<br>
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I think the thought is that a student would try to sue you
personally versus the space, and there was a suggestion
that individuals who teach should get their own personal
insurance that would cover the teaching they do. (The
space has its own insurance and waiver/disclaimer forms
that everyone signs.)<br>
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I am definitely not a lawyer, but I'd love to hear what
others think of that idea. (And yes, I am in the
overly-litigious United States.)<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Pete</font></span><span><br>
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<div dir="ltr">one side benefit of charging for
classes is allowing the class teachers to profit.
this can be particularly important for space
members who need supplemental income to afford their
dues or to get them by between contracts / gigs /
what have you.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at
6:24 AM, webmind <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:webmind@puscii.nl" target="_blank">webmind@puscii.nl</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 20/07/16 17:48,
Chad Elish wrote:<br>
> Here’s a question for everyone,<br>
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> What do you normally charge for your
classes?<br>
> I know its a big cash cow for spaces to
make up income.<br>
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</span>Hmm, not here. I think most Dutch spaces
mostly run on membership-income.<br>
<br>
Both spaces in Amsterdam do not have a set
price, LAG generally asks<br>
donation Technologia Incognita mostly the same
or people ask cost-price.<br>
IJHack (a "space" without a space) has been
doing workshops to generate<br>
some income, I think they did twice the cost
price to have a buffer of<br>
components or be able to share kits.<br>
<span><br>
> We’re currently at $40.00 for a learn to
solder class which you take<br>
> home an arduino you soldered together. We
recently noticed tech shop<br>
> charging $99 for soldering a blinking
badge together.<br>
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</span>Do a lot of spaces elsewhere use
workshops/services as a way of<br>
providing basic-income for the space? Do spaces
have other models<br>
outside of services or membership to generate
base-income?<br>
<br>
At LAG we're currently looking at alternative
ways of generating income<br>
for the rent/etc.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
webmind<br>
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