<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Altin - if it helps, I’ve just finished modeling the work I’m doing to develop our makerspace membership management. It also allows for tracking donations - important for bookkeeping and building your email lists. Iniitally, I’m just going to be launching a web portal for the tables. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Another thing that’s important is ways of sending automated reminders to some members - when PayPal stops working for what ever reason (usually when credit cards expire, or banking information changes).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As I have been learning keeping our books - this stuff is stinkin’ important! Hackerspaces and makerspaces can’t run without funds!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">— Shirley</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 20, 2016, at 6:30 AM, Altin Ukshini <<a href="mailto:altin.ukshini@gmail.com" class="">altin.ukshini@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hey everyone,<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thank you all very much for your feedback!<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I didn't leave this behind, I've been working on the CRM on my spare time...<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Yes, Seltzer has been very helpful so far, and I've even modified it couple of times for our needs at Prishtina Hackerspace.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I've published some of that code on these two repos:<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">- HACCSY: <a href="https://github.com/altinukshini/HACCSY" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/altinukshini/HACCSY</a><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-
Transactions (probably a bad naming, I ment "Fincances") module, it
just keeps track of some income and expenses (despite membership
payments): <a href="https://github.com/altinukshini/transaction_module" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/altinukshini/transaction_module</a><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">As
far as I can see, most of us struggle with charging/billing/payments.
If that would be the main problem to solve, we might have to elaborate
more on how each of our spaces processes these kind of tasks. Here's a description of how we deal with that at Prishtina Hackerspace: <a href="http://piratepad.be/p/MyATTA0ClZ" class="">http://piratepad.be/p/MyATTA0ClZ</a><br class=""><br class=""></div>I've opened the repo for the CRM and you can find the code on the following link: <a href="https://github.com/altinukshini/hackerspacecrm" class="">https://github.com/altinukshini/hackerspacecrm</a><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There's still some more work to be done for the core, including the currently opened issues. I plan to use <a href="https://github.com/caffeinated/modules" class="">Caffeinated</a> modules package to enable others to write modules for this CRM, but before that, I was thinking to write a small module installer, so that people can use a gui interface to install those modules.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please note again that this is my first project in Laravel, and I've been learning laravel while working on it, therefore you may find SOME crappy stuff in there. Feel free to let me know how it could be done better, and any suggestion is very much welcome! :)<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best,<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Altin<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">__<br class=""><br class=""></span></div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><b style="font-size:small" class=""><font color="#333333" class="">Altin Ukshini</font></b><span class=""><div style="font-size:small" class=""><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)" class=""><span style="color:rgb(61,133,198)" class=""><span class=""><span class=""><font size="1" class=""><font size="2" class="">Prishtina Hackerspace<br class="">Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova (FLOSSK)</font></font></span></span></span><br class=""></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)" class=""><br class=""><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)" class=""><span class="">+386 (0) 49 199 992 </span><span class=""><span class="">| <a href="http://altinukshini.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" class="">altinukshini.wordpress.com</a></span></span></span></div><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)" class=""><br class="">PRNHS: <a href="mailto:info@prishtinahackerspace.org" target="_blank" class="">info@prishtinahackerspace.org</a> | <a href="http://www.prishtinahackerspace.org/" target="_blank" class="">www.prishtinahackerspace.org</a> | <a href="http://wiki.prishtinahackerspace.org/wiki/The_Hackerspace_Manifesto" target="_blank" class="">Manifesto</a><br class="">FLOSSK: <a href="mailto:info@flossk.org" target="_blank" class="">info@flossk.org</a> | <a href="http://www.flossk.org/" target="_blank" class="">www.flossk.org</a></span><br class=""></div><span class=""></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Silence Dogood <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank" class="">matt@nycresistor.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">My seltzer system is considering running for president... but I think his views will probably get him into trouble.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Bob Bownes <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:bownes@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">bownes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br class="">Yup. Our Seltzer system drives our RFID system as well. Very handy. Will be better when every machine has an RFID reader. :)<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Joshua Pritt <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ramgarden@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ramgarden@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">We also use Seltzer at Melbourne Makerspace (Florida/USA) and created a RFID lock for the front door that automatically denies access to those that have missed 3 months of payments.<div class="">It has been working rock solid for well over a year now.</div><div class=""><a href="https://wiki.melbournemakerspace.org/projects/RFIDDoorLock" target="_blank" class="">https://wiki.melbournemakerspace.org/projects/RFIDDoorLock</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Bob Bownes <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:bownes@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">bownes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br class="">I can second that. We are using Seltzer at the Center of Gravity and are mostly happy with it. <br class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Shirley Hicks <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:shirley@velochicdesign.com" target="_blank" class="">shirley@velochicdesign.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">One more thing - take a look at Edward Platt’s work on Selzer CRM, which he developed for i3 Detroit. <div class=""><a href="https://github.com/elplatt/seltzer" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/elplatt/seltzer</a></div><span class=""><font color="#888888" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">— Shirley</div></font></span><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 24, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Shirley Hicks <<a href="mailto:shirley@velochicdesign.com" target="_blank" class="">shirley@velochicdesign.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">This was the project description I put together for our group. Note that we currently use WildApricot for membership management and will be switching over to a Wordpress WooCommerce based system this spring, which will also integrate with Bob Baddersley’s equiment lockout and RFID access card system, and Mediawiki’s WMWP extension for wiki editing access. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://wiki.redmountainmakers.org/wiki/RMM_Information_System/Operations_Description" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.redmountainmakers.org/wiki/RMM_Information_System/Operations_Description</a></div><div class=""><a href="http://wiki.redmountainmakers.org/wiki/RMM_Information_System" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.redmountainmakers.org/wiki/RMM_Information_System</a></div><div class=""><a href="http://wiki.redmountainmakers.org/wiki/Project:RMM_Information_System" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.redmountainmakers.org/wiki/Project:RMM_Information_System</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">— Shirley Hicks</div><div class="">Red ountain Makers</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 24, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Altin Ukshini <<a href="mailto:altin.ukshini@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">altin.ukshini@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Everyone,<br class=""><br class="">I've started working on a class assignment where for the following couple of months I'll be developing a CRM for managing Hackerspaces - that's what I chose to do to complete that assignment.<br class=""><br class="">My friends and I run Prishtina Hackerspace (a hackerspace in Kosovo), and since the beginning of it we
always struggled finding the best solution to manage members, payments,
keys, etc. I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel, we tried many different software but I think we need a better solutions for this. I think that many hackerspaces face the same problem when dealing with 30+ members. I know we all have different structures, but we could maybe boil down to something common and useful for all of us.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In order for this CRM to be better than the existing solutions, I need your help to let me know what do you struggle with, and what would you need to have in such application?<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">So far this is what I came up with (call them modules or simply functionalities):<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">- Membership<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-- Members<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-- Membership Plans<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-- Mentors<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">- Reports<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-- Membership reports<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-- Expenses reports<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">-- Space Frequentation (part of door access control and checkin system)<br class=""><br class="">- Finances<br class="">-- Transactions (income and expenses)<br class="">-- Billing (charge members / run billing)<br class="">-- Online Payment (Pay membership dues with Stripe/Paypal)<br class=""><br class="">- Access Control<br class="">-- Keys<br class="">-- RFID Cards<br class="">-- Alarm Pins<br class="">-- Door access Control and Checkin System (API for Raspberry pi/Arduino based solution)<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">One of the most important features of this CRM will be localization, themes, easily manageable settings, and of course modularity (so that anyone could write their own modules for it), <br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Btw, I plan to use Laravel 5.2.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Let's hope this will be helpful for your hackerspaces, just as it'll be for our needs at Prishtina Hackerspace. <br class="">I plan to maintain it for some couple of years maybe, and as well try to document it well so that anyone can understand how it works (but first I'll have to build it).<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">...afterall it's just my class assignment! :D<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br clear="all" class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline">Thanks in advance for your help!<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline">Best,<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline">Altin<br class=""></div><br class=""></span><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">__<br class=""><br class=""></span></div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><b style="font-size:small" class=""><font color="#333333" class="">Altin Ukshini</font></b><span class=""><div style="font-size:small" class=""><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)" class=""><span style="color:rgb(61,133,198)" class=""><span class=""><span class=""><font size="1" class=""><font size="2" class="">Prishtina Hackerspace<br class="">Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova (FLOSSK)</font></font></span></span></span><br class=""></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136)" class=""><br class=""><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)" class=""><span class=""><a href="tel:%2B386%20%280%29%2049%20199%20992" value="+38649199992" target="_blank" class="">+386 (0) 49 199 992</a> </span><span class=""><span class="">| <a href="http://altinukshini.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" class="">altinukshini.wordpress.com</a></span></span></span></div><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)" class=""><br class="">PRNHS: <a href="mailto:info@prishtinahackerspace.org" target="_blank" class="">info@prishtinahackerspace.org</a> | <a href="http://www.prishtinahackerspace.org/" target="_blank" class="">www.prishtinahackerspace.org</a> | <a href="http://wiki.prishtinahackerspace.org/wiki/The_Hackerspace_Manifesto" target="_blank" class="">Manifesto</a><br class="">FLOSSK: <a href="mailto:info@flossk.org" target="_blank" class="">info@flossk.org</a> | <a href="http://www.flossk.org/" target="_blank" class="">www.flossk.org</a></span><br class=""></div><span class=""></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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