<div dir="ltr">I would be very interested in some notes from ISTE re: makerspaces. Please & thank you!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Kyle Muir <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kyle@fuzeinteractive.io" target="_blank">kyle@fuzeinteractive.io</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I am headed to ISTE in Denver today. There are a number of lectures and workshops on this topic I plan to attend. <div><br></div><div>Will anyone else be attending or like notes to be shared?</div><div><br></div><div>Kyle <br><br>On Sunday, June 26, 2016, <<a href="mailto:discuss-request@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">discuss-request@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Discuss mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. US hackerspace and makerspaces - safety practices in risky<br>
neighborhoods (Shirley Hicks)<br>
2. Re: US hackerspace and makerspaces - safety practices in<br>
risky neighborhoods (Arclight)<br>
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Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 09:43:52 -0500<br>
From: Shirley Hicks <<a>shirley@velochicdesign.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [hackerspaces] US hackerspace and makerspaces - safety<br>
practices in risky neighborhoods<br>
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Hey everyone,<br>
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For a whole bunch of reasons, we’re having to push through and complete safety and security protocols for our makerspace.<br>
The thing we need to address is very US-centric, that of having taken a low(er) rent space in a neighborhood with crime problems and needing to beef up security and safety practices as a result.<br>
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We have a good crew in charge of this at our makerspace, but we now need to get a formal process in place for our membership so that we capture _all_ incidents. (we’re working with our city police and administration to improve safety in the area).<br>
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Am wondering if you would be willing to share your practices at your makerspace. Also, if you have linked material or docs, would you be willing to share that as well?<br>
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Thanks in advance,<br>
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Shirley Hicks<br>
Red Mountain Makers<br>
Birmingham, AL<br>
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Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 23:14:11 -0700<br>
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Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] US hackerspace and makerspaces - safety<br>
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I don't think this is a strictly US problem. Other folks from Europe<br>
and Latin America have told me stories about the dodgy spaces they<br>
rent due to affordability.<br>
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In any case, we don't have a "safety manual," but we do have a few<br>
core principals. Our place is located in an industrial area 2 blocks<br>
from a methadone clinic and a downtown with a large homeless<br>
population. It's not gangland or especially dangerous, but common<br>
sense must be observed.<br>
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1. Lock it or lose it! Don't store anything outside that you don't<br>
want stolen. It could be fine for weeks, but it's bad practice,<br>
serves as an attractor to scumbags, and often ends in lots of crying.<br>
This applies to materials, bikes, large tools, etc.<br>
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2. The space gets locked when not open, 100% of the time, no<br>
exceptions. Make the workflow of your access system encourage this<br>
practice by making "door stays unlocked' an explicit mode that is not<br>
the default after the first person comes in, and setting a nightly<br>
timeout to relock everything if forgotten.<br>
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3. Use cameras and alarm functionality the right way. I'll say it<br>
now: Cameras do very little to prevent crime. We have a visible<br>
camera right over the dumpster, and it has never stopped the taggers<br>
or the phantom pooper. And unless you have a very high quality (i.e.<br>
1MP or above with good low-light and appropriate optics), you'll just<br>
have a bunch of blurry pictures of people stealing your stuff.<br>
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And if you have a monitored alarm, you're also not using it right if<br>
you have repeated false alarms.<br>
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The right way: Use cameras as a way of verifying who is at the door,<br>
or verifying what is going on in real-time should your alarm go off.<br>
Cops will be more likely to respond if you have a video-verified alarm<br>
than the typical "something may or may not have happened" telemetry.<br>
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Regarding the alarm system itself, we have a self-monitored system,<br>
and have made it very easy for people to arm it and lock up when<br>
leaving. (You just enter '1's until it starts the 30 second<br>
countdown, or chirps an error if you left a door open).<br>
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We also make it easy to disarm - something like "the act of badging in<br>
also disarms the alarm" is a good way to prevent falses and make the<br>
5+ people callout list that gets SMS'd in the event of an alarm<br>
immediately jump up and check the cameras.<br>
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Yes, you can go into endless "what if the attackers jammed cell<br>
service, cut the wires, and took advantage of the fact that MD5 is an<br>
outdated hashing algorithm" scenarios. The truth is, you're trying to<br>
protect your assets from a bunch of thieves parking a moving truck in<br>
your loading dock and stripping the place while everyone is at DEFCON,<br>
or the odd "smash and grab" druggie from the alley.<br>
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4. Make it look like there is nothing to steal. No laptops, camera<br>
bags, etc should be sitting on your car seat. Don't make it look<br>
from the outside like it's a weed grow, a computer shop or anything<br>
with cash or retail goods. Be forgettable.<br>
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5. If you see people that don't belong to your group milling around,<br>
engage them. When we do this, we either end up inviting them in or<br>
they quickly find out this isn't the place to go to "just use the<br>
bathroom" for 2 hours...<br>
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6. The best defense is having people there a lot and at unpredictable<br>
times. In most hacker spaces, there is not "safe" time a person could<br>
break in and be assured of it being unoccupied. This ain't Starbucks.<br>
You can also maintain a presence if you have an active chat room/IRC<br>
channel and a webcam. You can even set up the webcam to be disabled<br>
if the space is unoccupied/alarm is armed. That is a personal choice.<br>
Some folks actually like turning on a webcam and being logged in to<br>
chat if they are working alone - it's like having someone keeping an<br>
eye on you if you get hurt/etc.<br>
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7. The last thing: If you need someone to leave, ask them to leave<br>
clearly and unambiguously. No passive-aggressive games. If they are<br>
aggressive, crazy and/or otherwise won't leave, call the police. All<br>
of the local businesses here have the direct number to the PD taped to<br>
the counter for a reason. Some spaces have a "No cops, EVAH!" policy.<br>
The bottom line is that they are a resource you occasionally need,<br>
warts and all.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Arclight<br>
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We've have neighbors get broken into, but our space has never been targeted.<br>
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On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Shirley Hicks<br>
<<a>shirley@velochicdesign.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hey everyone,<br>
><br>
> For a whole bunch of reasons, we’re having to push through and complete safety and security protocols for our makerspace.<br>
> The thing we need to address is very US-centric, that of having taken a low(er) rent space in a neighborhood with crime problems and needing to beef up security and safety practices as a result.<br>
><br>
> We have a good crew in charge of this at our makerspace, but we now need to get a formal process in place for our membership so that we capture _all_ incidents. (we’re working with our city police and administration to improve safety in the area).<br>
><br>
> Am wondering if you would be willing to share your practices at your makerspace. Also, if you have linked material or docs, would you be willing to share that as well?<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance,<br>
><br>
> Shirley Hicks<br>
> Red Mountain Makers<br>
> Birmingham, AL<br>
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