<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Good morning Taner,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Unfortunately, I don’t think that any one person or organization has developed such a list. It would be an interesting (and very useful) set of notes to develop, which would take time and a lot of talking and probing people to get the information out. If you find one, could you share with this list? I would love to find a Consumer Reports (US consumer’s product review magazine and website) equivalent for shop tools!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My suggestions would be to go through some of the larger makerspace and hackerspace’s equipment lists, and look to see what models of equipment that they are working with, then get in touch with lab leads or space leadership and find out what their opinions of the equipment are. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would suggest:</div><div class="">Dallas Hackerspace - <a href="https://dallasmakerspace.org/" class="">https://dallasmakerspace.org/</a> (one of the largest and most successful makerspaces in NorAm)</div><div class="">Artist’s Asylum - <a href="https://artisansasylum.com/" class="">https://artisansasylum.com/</a></div><div class="">Georgia Tech’s Invention Studio - <a href="http://inventionstudio.gatech.edu/" class="">http://inventionstudio.gatech.edu/</a> - has the combination of raw beginners and experienced student leads that you’re likely to be dealing with. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, talk to your own membership and find out what their experiences have been with this equipment elsewhere in professional lives. It will be easier if multiple people are working on this, preferably ones with some experience using the tools. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Makerspace tools have some different requirements than manufacturing production tools in that they should have simpler control systems, and some versatility of use (not dedicated to doing one specific task really really well, as most industrial versions of the tools will be) but need more robustness than the consumer version of tools coming on the market. I would look at design studio/small workshop versions of machines - ones designed for prototyping and small lot manufacturing. That should give you the combination of robustness (for multiple users) and setup versatility </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also allow for the fact that you will probably not make perfect selections and that you should plan for some replacement eighteen months to three years out. (just build it into your financial model (write down the value over time) and plan for it). Some equipment will just wear out - and others won’t be best fits and should be either hacked or sold off. Also, it’s useful to work with entry-level models while you get a sense of how your membership will use the tools. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you are importing, you have the option of looking for goods in multiple markets, from Europe to the Americas. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Our makerspace in Birmingham, AL is currently researching our first big tool acquisitions - we would be willing to share notes as we go if you’d care to exchange email addresses. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On a tangential note - there’s been a lot written on-line regarding the design and equipping of makerspace for children and teens in libraries and community centers. In part this is because the people who are doing it are having to learn themselves. (<a href="https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Evaluations+of+shop+tools+for+makerspaces" class="">https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Evaluations+of+shop+tools+for+makerspaces</a> returns the search I just did) <a href="http://makerpd.weebly.com/2-up-and-running.html" class="">http://makerpd.weebly.com/2-up-and-running.html</a> has links to some great studies with details as to how different groups made their tool selections. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Shirley Hicks</div><div class="">Red Mountain Makers</div><div class="">Birmingham, AL</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Pete Prodoehl <<a href="mailto:raster@gmail.com" class="">raster@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Let the members decide what to buy?<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/16 4:37 PM, Taher Allow
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<div class="">Thanks for your kind response :)</div>
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<div class="">Mainly our members can teach cnc ,laser cutter, milling,
welding, waterjet and all related tools.</div>
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From: Arclight <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:arclight@gmail.com"><arclight@gmail.com></a> <br class="">
Date: 5/1/2016 12:29 AM (GMT+03:00) <br class="">
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Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Machines list - buying resources ! <br class="">
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Taher,<br class="">
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I would start by asking: What do you wish to make or teach classes
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Is there industry (such as Petroluem) near you that has
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CAD operators, other skilled people that can offer to teach?
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Arclight<br class="">
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On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Taher Alblowe
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> I am looking for a good resource that helps me select the
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> Unfortunately it is not available in Saudi so I have to check
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