<div dir="ltr">A harassment policy won't stop someone from harassing people by itself. For us, the purpose it serves is to let everyone else know that they have the organization's back, and make them more confident in speaking up if there is a problem.<div><br></div><div>Writing it in a neat little paragraph may be needed for documentation reasons, but what really gives it strength is frequent reinforcement at gatherings, meetings, and through your actions.</div><div><br></div><div>Sam</div><div>Phoenix Asylum</div><div>Boulder, CO</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Shirley Hicks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shirley@velochicdesign.com" target="_blank">shirley@velochicdesign.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That may be the case, Xer0Dynamite - but there are real requirements to working successfully with that establishment.<br>
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In the makerish approach - today’s current building codes were all written (over the past 100 years) because in each originating incident - someone died.<br>
And in the insurance business, those policies are requested because someone sued (in my experience, with cause) and won.<br>
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Insurance companies are in the risk reduction business.<br>
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Shirley Hicks<br>
Red Mountain Makers.<br>
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> On Jan 14, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Xer0Dynamite <<a href="mailto:dreamingforward@gmail.com">dreamingforward@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> You're being given the runaround by the Establishment. If the<br>
> insurance company is asking for that it's because they want to make<br>
> sure they're not insuring some asshole. It's better for you and them<br>
> to know that you're not.<br>
><br>
> People who harass wouldn't care -- they already know they're crossing<br>
> a line. Such policies are just legal poppycock. Like a peacock- a<br>
> great show but when he opens his mouth, it's just a squa(c)k.<br>
><br>
> \m<br>
><br>
> On 1/14/16, Sparr <<a href="mailto:sparr0@gmail.com">sparr0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> It's very easy to write a harassment policy that defines any behavior at<br>
>> all as possibly-harassment, effectively saying nothing. Please try to avoid<br>
>> this.<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Bill Shaw <<a href="mailto:bill@funwithbots.com">bill@funwithbots.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Tampa Hackerspace reached out to our insurance agent to see about D&O<br>
>>> (directors and officers) insurance. We were informed that we need both<br>
>>> harassment and anti-discrimination policies in place before we apply.<br>
>>> They<br>
>>> didn't have any boilerplate text for these policies.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Has anyone else obtained this form of insurance and created suitable<br>
>>> policies?<br>
>>><br>
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