<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Petr Baudis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pasky@ucw.cz" target="_blank">pasky@ucw.cz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow:hidden"> I guess part of the misunderstanding is the seduction of lumping<br>
all "undeveloped world" together - Syria and Kenya, Paraguay and<br>
Indonesia, Pakistan and Afghanistan, (South) Sudan and Nepal, ...<br>
In fact, the tech situation in each of these locations is AFAIK very<br>
different and their economic level may not correlate well with ih.<br>
Another thing is that 10 year old anecdotes / experience with some<br>
of these regions may be largely invalid today.</div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">His observations still stand for the amount of effort and drastically different expectations that will come in to play for people without experience who have good intentions.<br><br>As I mentioned upthread, I volunteered some small amount of time with an organization in Chicago to tutor a brother and sister and also teach a class in "computers" to kids. They were from Somalia.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I wasn't a great volunteer. For example, for the class I didn't realize that the goal was not to teach programming to kids but to teach keyboarding, mousing, word processing (all valuable, and not what I expected). And in cultural and language ignorance, I ended up calling an ambulance because the kids' mom was moaning in pain. I didn't know that people express pain in different ways, and I did not have enough vocabulary in common to know how bad the pain was.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">So, before attempting to help, learn how not to be worse than useless and how not to make expensive mistakes.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Also, consider things beyond mere membership. it will be a waste of time if you don't consider transportation as just one thing. The refugee organization I met with had a van to give kids rides, for example.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:shekay@pobox.com" target="_blank">shekay@pobox.com</a></div></div>
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