<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Petr Baudis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pasky@ucw.cz" target="_blank">pasky@ucw.cz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">> Dossier Pattern<br>
> > Problem: The board has received a complaint about a member, but the member<br>
> > says they didn't understand the rules. The board members are new and have<br>
> > no way to know whether the member has been a problem before.<br>
> > Solution: Keep records of all member complaints in a system that is<br>
> > confidential and searchable. Even if someone doesn't want to make a formal<br>
> > complaint, leaving a note can help establish whether there is a pattern of<br>
> > misbehavior and help future boards follow up.<br>
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</span> I just fail to see the problem here. People have some reputation and<br>
if all people on your board are completely unaware of reputation of your<br>
members, I don't see how you can be reasonably settling any disputes at<br>
all.</blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I think people can know reputation and have a context for when someone is having difficulties when there are 40 members, but once you get to 400 members you've exceeded Dunbar's number [1].<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">We hover around 400 members, and I don't know everyone. I've talked with some long term members and former members about difficulties with people in the space over the years because I wanted to know our failure modes to see what we can improve.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Some case studies from over the years<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">* One member was bad at self care and had serious problems. People couldn't help the member be functional, and the member was dangerous to themselves. If they ever want to come back, I think people should know to talk to the person to see if things have changed.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">* One member was reckless and used equipment dangerously and did not change their behavior after being talked to. If this person wants to use tools again, people should know the background before re-authorizing the person to use tools.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">* A non-member at an open event sexually harassed and stalked a member attending the event. The person was told not to come to the space anymore. I know about this situation because it was an event I ran, but I also know that we don't have documentation about this. It didn't occur to me until recently that we should track things.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">In the first two cases, I think they could improve. In the last
case, I do not want to give the person a second chance.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:shekay@pobox.com" target="_blank">shekay@pobox.com</a></div></div>
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