<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">From Luke </span></div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div><br></div>"I lead the build of a Lasersaur at the Dallas Makerspace earlier this year. It was a significant undertaking in every sense of the word. It was expensive, time consuming, complex, and is still growing as a project. It's in it's adolescence which is better than infancy but it's not a finished design.</span><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><a href="https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Lasersaur_Laser_Cutter" target="_blank">https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Lasersaur_Laser_Cutter</a><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The good stuff. We learned a lot in the process about lasers and automation design, the design is constantly improving and Lasersaur machines in the wild can upgrade and follow along, we can customize the design easier than other laser cutters (handy if we build another), the community is active and helpful, it's not the most expensive laser cutter out there.</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The bad stuff. There are some interference issues with the motherboard which causes the motherboard to reset sometimes (not a show stopper but not good either), it's not the cheapest laser cutter out there, it doesn't do raster cutting (yet).</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I would consider building one if there are a lot of very motivated members with expertise because one person will likely either get burned out or get stuck with a problem they can't figure out on their own. If it's a small group of people who may or may not have time to help then I'd buy something already assembled and ready to go.</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The other laser cutters I have experience with is Full Spectrum Laser. They are in a weird place. They are significantly more expensive than the imported lasers but they are very similar in almost every other way. As far as I can tell the only thing Full Spectrum Laser does is swap the control board and panel, provide their own software, and paint it a different color. So it has many of the same problems as the cheap import lasers like crappy power supplies, flimsy mirror mounts, random cheap crap components throughout (weak door hinges, threads that strip, locks that break, lots of that kind of stuff). I don't see them as being a good value but they are probably better than imported lasers from Alibaba since there's someone you can call for support.</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">If you're seriously considering a Lasersaur build and have questions I'd be happy to do a phone conference or something to answer any questions. Cheers!"</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Luke Olson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:luke.s.olson@gmail.com" target="_blank">luke.s.olson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I lead the build of a Lasersaur at the Dallas Makerspace earlier this year. It was a significant undertaking in every sense of the word. It was expensive, time consuming, complex, and is still growing as a project. It's in it's adolescence which is better than infancy but it's not a finished design.<div><br></div><div><a href="https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Lasersaur_Laser_Cutter" target="_blank">https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Lasersaur_Laser_Cutter</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The good stuff. We learned a lot in the process about lasers and automation design, the design is constantly improving and Lasersaur machines in the wild can upgrade and follow along, we can customize the design easier than other laser cutters (handy if we build another), the community is active and helpful, it's not the most expensive laser cutter out there.</div><div><br></div><div>The bad stuff. There are some interference issues with the motherboard which causes the motherboard to reset sometimes (not a show stopper but not good either), it's not the cheapest laser cutter out there, it doesn't do raster cutting (yet).</div><div><br></div><div>I would consider building one if there are a lot of very motivated members with expertise because one person will likely either get burned out or get stuck with a problem they can't figure out on their own. If it's a small group of people who may or may not have time to help then I'd buy something already assembled and ready to go.</div><div><br></div><div>The other laser cutters I have experience with is Full Spectrum Laser. They are in a weird place. They are significantly more expensive than the imported lasers but they are very similar in almost every other way. As far as I can tell the only thing Full Spectrum Laser does is swap the control board and panel, provide their own software, and paint it a different color. So it has many of the same problems as the cheap import lasers like crappy power supplies, flimsy mirror mounts, random cheap crap components throughout (weak door hinges, threads that strip, locks that break, lots of that kind of stuff). I don't see them as being a good value but they are probably better than imported lasers from Alibaba since there's someone you can call for support.</div><div><br></div><div>If you're seriously considering a Lasersaur build and have questions I'd be happy to do a phone conference or something to answer any questions. Cheers!</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Luke</div><div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Robert Davidson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robert@dallasmakerspace.org" target="_blank">robert@dallasmakerspace.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>This might be helpful for those on the Lasersaur.</div><div><br></div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrlaIzfpaQM" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrlaIzfpaQM</a><br><div><br>We also have a Lasersaur at Dallas Makerspace.</div><div><br></div><div>I have CC'd Luke who could probably answer any questions more than I could.</div><div><br></div><div>Robert Davidson </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Brett Dikeman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brett.dikeman@gmail.com" target="_blank">brett.dikeman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">From speaking with people who worked on a Lasersaur in our area - the web UI was pretty terrible, they tried to contribute patches to fix various problems, and the author refused to integrate them. That may be outdated information. Have things improved?<span><font color="#888888"><div><div><br><div><div>-B</div></div></div></div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM, justin corwin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:outlawpoet@gmail.com" target="_blank">outlawpoet@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I have some bad experience with generic machines from alibaba amongst my friends. The most problematic thing is that they tend to advertise their power as what they can measure directly at the laser tube, whereas more reputable companies like Epilog measure power delivered at the tool head, so the cheapness of high power machines has to be balanced with the fact that they may not actually be that capable. <div><br></div><div>I like the Lasersaur design, and some places have had good results, just make sure you either buy better parts/kits or have someone who knows about this kind of thing in charge of building it. A crappy power supply or misaligned x-y table can cause endless heartache later. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Joshua Pritt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ramgarden@gmail.com" target="_blank">ramgarden@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">We've been using the Full Spectrum laser at Makers Local 256 and Melbourne Makerspace with lots of success (with bouts of downtime while replacing the tube or power supply) but it works great for the most part.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:53 PM, opit <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:opit@technariumas.lt" target="_blank">opit@technariumas.lt</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello all,<br>
here at Technarium we're considering buying a laser cutter (water jet<br>
would be even better, but probably is outside of our financial<br>
abilities). Maybe any of you have a piece of advice of what to look for<br>
and what to avoid? What do you use at your space and what didn't work<br>
out? What's your experience with Lasersaur or with generic machines from<br>
Alibaba?<br>
<br>
Last week there a similar request was posted here, but what we're<br>
looking for is a larger machine that could also be used by freelancers<br>
at the space and for custom manufacturing orders. We plan to have up to<br>
7500 Euros for it.<br>
Thanks!<br>
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