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There are a lot of lies in those posts.<br>
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The short story is: Dumb people felt threatened cos I said smart
things.<br>
They knew that they couldn't give that as the explanation as to why
I should be removed, so they made other stuff up.<br>
<br>
Go and talk to people in the space that I interacted with everyday.<br>
<br>
Ask the trustees what the CCTV show. ohh. They don't say. I wonder
why?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/02/15 16:29, Colin Keigher wrote:<br>
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Yeah. It's classic that someone who is an "independent thinker"
will start to accuse a mailing list of "group think". I guess if
that your accusation that this mailing list and the hackerspace
you were banished with are both examples of "group think" then I
might as well go and dig up your past since I am curious what got
you booted in the first place.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/london-hack-space/Io8vDQvaT84">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/london-hack-space/Io8vDQvaT84</a><br>
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two formal warnings on 16th Jan 2015 and 18th Jan 2015 for
harassment on IRC, via email, and in person as well as
repeated evasion of IRC bans.</span></div>
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0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Peter's recent conduct after
his first and second formal warnings continued to
demonstrate a complete lack of respect for other members,
and no ability to compromise when acting as a member of the
community. We have not noted any willingness to change this
attitude and the many members who have attempted to discuss
it with Peter echo this.</span></div>
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So from this we learn the following:<br>
<br>
- You were banned from IRC after being harassing and then evaded
your bans<br>
- You harassed the hackerspace via e-mail<br>
- You have no ability to compromise with the hackerspace<br>
- You have no desire to change your behaviour<br>
- People have tried to mediate but you've demonstrated no desire
to change<br>
<br>
Then we go on later into this thread to find the following:<br>
<br>
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0px; display: inline !important; float: none;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">It's not a case of just
finding him "annoying" it's finding his<span
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Peter stopped multiple people from using the<span
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So you're obviously toxic to this hackerspace. Why are you causing
people to leave? I see references to you stalking them around the
space.<br>
<br>
Then we see other examples from the mailing list of your warnings:<br>
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href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21searchin/london-hack-space/peter$20meadows/london-hack-space/bDlpFC6Lg2o/4kD0zb29lYIJ">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/london-hack-space/peter$20meadows/london-hack-space/bDlpFC6Lg2o/4kD0zb29lYIJ</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21searchin/london-hack-space/peter$20meadows/london-hack-space/7WE1zuRWKbk/JaqLpP9Tu0QJ">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/london-hack-space/peter$20meadows/london-hack-space/7WE1zuRWKbk/JaqLpP9Tu0QJ</a><br>
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On the second link, we're referred to this page:<br>
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href="https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Grievance_Procedure/Warnings_Issued">https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Grievance_Procedure/Warnings_Issued</a><br>
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on IRC and in person, evasion of IRC bans.</span></blockquote>
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And then finally this:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Grievance_Procedure/Bans_Issued">https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Grievance_Procedure/Bans_Issued</a><br>
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on IRC and in person, evasion of IRC bans</span></blockquote>
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And according to this, it's valid for a year. Have you given any
thought to maybe taking a fucking break and seeking help?<br>
<br>
Also, complaining about being mean about RMS is funny when he's
known to be a creeper himself, has the most obnoxious conference
attendance requirements, and is known to eat things stuck to his
foot:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ</a><br>
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Quit posting on this mailing list, Peter. Nobody cares about your
plight and from all appearances your ban was more than rightfully
deserved.<br>
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- Colin<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15-02-26 08:12 AM, peter wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:54EF45F3.2000600@riseup.net" type="cite"> I
disagree. All I've done is calmly express my ideas in the most
rational way I know how. <br>
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I think it's a cultural problem. <br>
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I think it is possible and necessary to change people's minds.
It will not be easy. <br>
(I guess the scientists fighting religion overcame the same kind
of problem). <br>
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Humans are tricky, and prone to violence and group-think. <br>
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