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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/02/15 00:01, Jessica Ross wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Is this list becoming the new noisebridge-discuss?
        This has all been very droll and everything, but I think it's
        time for a moderator to step in. <br>
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    Or you could just choose not to read this thread. *shrug*<br>
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    Why do you think we need a moderator to come along and decide what
    everyone should read or post about?<br>
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    Has there been anything abusive in this thread?<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:59 PM, peter
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                <div>On 25/02/15 23:54, Derek H wrote:<br>
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                      the thread closely, and you're smart, you might
                      guess where I'm going (there are clues)."<br>
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                      Yeah. We get it. You're insufferable and lack any
                      degree of properly formed human empathy. You're
                      incredibly emotionally unaware and insist on
                      inflicting yourself upon situations where your
                      presence is unwelcome. NOTHING bad that happens to
                      you is your fault, and everyone is just out to get
                      you because they're so unenlightened. You're so
                      advanced that you don't even understand the
                      concept of gender. Ooh. Ahh. Now please leave us
                      be.</span></div>
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              </span> 'We'. 'us'. Who are you talking about?
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at
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                                <div>On 25/02/15 23:34, Don Ankney
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                                    On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, peter
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                                      <div>On 23/02/15 05:08, Sparr
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                                            <div class="gmail_quote">On
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                                              PM, peter <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                                  anyone have
                                                  advice/experience with
                                                  the leadership abusing
                                                  their powers, doing
                                                  unconstitutional/unethical
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                                                Short answer: unless the
                                                group's bylaws give you
                                                some recourse, then you
                                                have none. The
                                                leadership gets to make
                                                up the rules, and if you
                                                don't like them then you
                                                can go start your own
                                                club. The actual points
                                                of your arguments don't
                                                matter. They could be
                                                telling you to stop
                                                wearing yellow shirts,
                                                and your justification
                                                for wearing yellow
                                                shirts WOULDNT MATTER. </div>
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                                      I beg to differ. I don't care what
                                      the 'law' says. I care about what
                                      is the right/moral thing to do.<br>
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                                      (there is no appeal process, but I
                                      can try to call an EGM, which is
                                      what I'm doing)<br>
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                                      If your government starts
                                      committing genocide, would you say
                                      'oh well, they passed a law to
                                      make it legal, so there is nothing
                                      I can do?'.<br>
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                                  <div>Off you should choose that
                                    example.The prelude to genocide is
                                    almost always dehumanizing the
                                    targets. <br>
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                            I was actually transhumanising, but I don't
                            have time to explain this right now. <br>
                            If you read the thread closely, and you're
                            smart, you might guess where I'm going
                            (there are clues).<br>
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                            I'm writing a reply for the LHS cleaner
                            thread, cos I think it's very interesting.<span><br>
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