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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/15 23:34, Don Ankney wrote:<br>
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        On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, peter <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 2:56
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                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Does anyone
                      have advice/experience with the leadership abusing
                      their powers, doing unconstitutional/unethical
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                    Short answer: unless the group's bylaws give you
                    some recourse, then you have none. The leadership
                    gets to make up the rules, and if you don't like
                    them then you can go start your own club. The actual
                    points of your arguments don't matter. They could be
                    telling you to stop wearing yellow shirts, and your
                    justification for wearing yellow shirts WOULDNT
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          I beg to differ. I don't care what the 'law' says. I care
          about what is the right/moral thing to do.<br>
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          (there is no appeal process, but I can try to call an EGM,
          which is what I'm doing)<br>
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          If your government starts committing genocide, would you say
          'oh well, they passed a law to make it legal, so there is
          nothing I can do?'.<br>
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      <div>Off you should choose that example.The prelude to genocide is
        almost always dehumanizing the targets. <br>
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    I was actually transhumanising, but I don't have time to explain
    this right now. <br>
    If you read the thread closely, and you're smart, you might guess
    where I'm going (there are clues).<br>
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    I'm writing a reply for the LHS cleaner thread, cos I think it's
    very interesting.<br>
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