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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/15 10:48, Dan Schmidt wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">However, a pub table is a bad analogy for a mailing list. On a list, you
can choose to ignore posts or whole threads, and it doesn't prevent you
from continuing to participate in the other threads at the same time.
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Obviously you made it hard for them to ignore you, so they kicked you out. Usually posts and threads which come across as threatening to other members or staff are the ones which cannot be ignored, especially by management. One might argue that dehumanising the cleaner is threatening behaviour. And, I might add, you're the one who called your behaviour dehumanising:</pre>
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Please explain to me why it was hard for them to ignore. It seems
very simple to me. Just don't read or reply.<br>
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Please explain how my posts were threatening. Was there some
suggestion that I was going to hurt the cleaner?<br>
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Why do you think I said in that thread:<br>
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class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>the space is heroic and
totally awesome"<br>
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</span>Does that sound like someone that's threatening cleaners?<br>
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"I like de-humanising. I think it's a good thing."
If you habitually and wilfully break from social convention in a social conversation (especially online forums) then you run the risk of presenting yourself as a threat to the fabric that keeps the group together and functioning. There are ways of doing that which are perfectly respectable and civil, as I said, an intellectual exercise presented in a theoretical discussion. Non-threatening == easy to ignore, it's human nature.
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Social conventions are often bad.<br>
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I think playing with ideas is good and healthy.<br>
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Challenging what is 'normal' is a good thing. Some things are
convention for good reasons, and some are conventions for bad
reasons.<br>
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<pre wrap="">London hackspace has a lot of members, and I know for a fact that some
of them do like my contributions.
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<pre wrap="">They think cos they're not active on IRC or list that they don't exist.
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If they do exist why don't you arrange your EGM instead of spending your time here trying to rally more supporters?
- Dan
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