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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/02/15 06:25, Derek H wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Peter, you're exhausting. Nobody in the space wants
        the stress of you in their life. Your disruptions outweighed
        your contributions, and so they are taking measures against you.<br>
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    Did you ask them all?<br>
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    I asked a lot of them, and most of them did not say 'we don't want
    you in the space'.<br>
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    (also, don't forget to actually go to the space and ask people using
    the space. It's kindof funny how many of the haters haven't even met
    me IRL)<br>
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        Either fix the problem (learn to chill out and be easier to deal
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    I'm chilled. The problem isn't coming from my side.<br>
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    The problem is people who don't like being told why they're wrong.<br>
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    Why don't they be all chill and just ignore me?<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Sparr
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                <div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Fri, Feb 20,
                    2015 at 2:56 PM, peter <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Does anyone
                        have advice/experience with the leadership
                        abusing their powers, doing
                        unconstitutional/unethical things?</div>
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                    Short answer: unless the group's bylaws give you
                    some recourse, then you have none. The leadership
                    gets to make up the rules, and if you don't like
                    them then you can go start your own club. The actual
                    points of your arguments don't matter. They could be
                    telling you to stop wearing yellow shirts, and your
                    justification for wearing yellow shirts WOULDNT
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