<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hello all,<br></div>well, that is exactly our status at the Electrolab : we just recruited our first staff in december !<br>Just FYI, Electrolab = 1500m² near Paris, officially a hackerspace, closer to a makerspace given our equipment.<br><br></div>We've been running our non profit for four years on volunteers only, and 6 months ago we moved to a bigger space (from 150 to 1500m²). It sort of always was part of the plan to have paid staff at some point to handle such a big space. We're just having some sort of an egg & chicken issue : you need someone here full time to start new activities (think workshops with kids -> during the day, when most of our volunteers do work, think coworking space, same issue...), and these activities shall get some money in to actually be able to fund these salaries.<br><br></div>Thankfully, we've found a heavily subsidised (by the state) contract, which in the end isnt that expensive, and which core members can, if required, pay with their own money for the transition time.<br>We've also recruited someone who has been a member for a long time, knows the group & environment quite well, while at the same time not being a suuuper involved/often present volunteer.<br></div>So far, so good... but I cannot really give you a valuable feedback, as we just started this whole "having paid staff" thing :)<br><br></div>BTW about cleaning up the space, we had a discussion something like 2 years ago. The question we discussed in the yearly member meeting was something like this:<br></div>- the space is dirty most of the time.<br>- The board thinks it is a problem.<br></div>- the board cannot clean after you all the time<br></div>- the board choses to attribute some of our budget to the cleaning, but would like to think about two scenarios: first one, we pay x €/month to a company that will come and clean the space. Second one, some members organize a cleaning each week, at a specific time (eg, a proper cleaning), and we keep note of who/which group comes to do so. The money budgeted for the cleaning then goes to the subsidised project they support.<br><br></div>In the end, members chose the second version (eg, do not pay someone else for something as trivial as cleaning). It did work quite well for like... 12?18 months ? and these days, well... it doesn't work that well, but for other reasons (huge evolution on the operations of our space after a x10 increase in its size).<br></div>C.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Florencia Edwards <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:floev22@gmail.com" target="_blank">floev22@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">This is good , thanks. Any space that had volunteers and changed to payed staff?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-12-16 5:09 GMT-03:00 JB Zurn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jbzurn@gmail.com" target="_blank">jbzurn@gmail.com</a>></span>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><p dir="ltr">I am a member of a nonprofit hackerspace, and also helped start a space with employees nearby.</p>
<p dir="ltr">In my experience it has been beneficial to have -both- types of groups (with employees, and all volunteers). </p>
<p dir="ltr">The volunteer spaces can have great communities and you can meet many interesting people, doing things for fun.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The space with employees is great for starting businesses. When you are trying to run a business, you need to know the machines will work & that they will be available at a specific time. Employees monitor the space and machines. </p>
<p dir="ltr">We've found it is actually nice to have the spaces separate. You can send the people who are over-utilizing machines for work, to the professional space. And the people who want to hang out and chit-chat, you can send them to the volunteer club. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Another thing that is working for us. You don't want people to leave the volunteer club. People rarely get the kind of community in a business environment, that you have in a club. That social environment is helpful to people. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Simple solution - set the membership fees for the professional space high enough. Then if someone is a member of the volunteer club, you can deduct their dues from the professional space membership. That way, they don't have to choose one over the other. </p>
<p dir="ltr">-Brooks Zurn </p>
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