<div dir="ltr">Bringing this subject back up as we are implementing a tool loan policy at MakeICT in Kansas. Here is what we have so far:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://makeict.org/wiki/index.php/Tool_Loans_to_MakeICT_Policy">http://makeict.org/wiki/index.php/Tool_Loans_to_MakeICT_Policy</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Any of you have any additional suggestions for us?</div><div><br></div><div>Jens</div><div>Treasurer, MakeICT</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Joshua Pritt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ramgarden@gmail.com" target="_blank">ramgarden@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Yep we have the standard liability waiver at melbourne Makerspace that says you operate the tools at your own risk and hold the space harmless. </p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 2, 2014 5:26 PM, "Chris Gallaty" <<a href="mailto:chris.gallaty@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.gallaty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I would just make a precondition to the tool lending that all participants sign a waiver that states that if they mame themselves with the tool they are an idiot and liable for their own actions. You might want to reverse that and state that if Charles proceeds to destroy said mill that he has to in good faith help right that (likely less binding). I would run the whole thing past Legal Lisa to proof, but you get the point. The liability on is the easy one. If you can't get the other clause, you may want a waiver for anyone lending a tool that they do so at their own risk and the Space is not liable for other folks destroying their stuff.<div>
<br></div><div>Seems a sad thing to have to do, but it only takes one moron to wreck things for everyone. Better safe than having to shut the whole thing down later due to an 'incident'.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Robert Davidson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robert@dallasmakerspace.org" target="_blank">robert@dallasmakerspace.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">As a Makerspace many of us Lend Tools to the organization. Has anyone looked into the liability of loaning equipment?</span><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Example <br><br>Mo has a Mill he want's to loan to a Hackerspace</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Charles is clumsy and breaks his arm on the Mill.<br><br>Charles talks to Legal Lisa and says wouldn't it be fun to goto court and sue Mo and Hackerspace</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Has anyone looked into the liability of accepting loans vs requiring donated tools so all the legal liability stays on the organization?</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
My guess is this is a common discussion among most makerspaces/hackerspaces in the world.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
I would be interested to see if anyone has done the research?</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
Thanks,</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br>Robert Davidson </div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Dallas Makerspace </font><br><font face="arial, sans-serif">Dallas.MS</font><br>
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